... i'd take the gamble and get a .22 asp20 with the whiskey3 scope they offered with it initially.... sooner or later , you'll find a $300 used hw 77 or 97.....i found an older hw77 carbine for less than $300 , and it had that larger diameter tube from the 80's or 90's or whatever.....wish i had kept that longer , but i didnt like underlevers then.... ag's of az has the .177 diana 430L underlevers on for $199 now , i got mine a month ago when they were $230 w/out scope and zr mount , but now i wish i had just paid the $270 for the gun,scope, and mount.... that gun is in the closet until it COOLS OFF here in ft.worth ... ag's of az told me to send in the one-piece diana lockdown mount they tossed in after they explained they were out of those scopes and mounts now, and it was gun only....but just got an email from darren telling to send that older mount back in for the new zr 'slider' mount..... my buddy anthony found a .22 hw77 full length for under $300 somewhere (pawn shop ?).... and he LOVES his more than his walther lgu's .... but i betcha he still likes his .22 air arms pro-elite better than the older hw77 , and the 820 fps pro-elite would be a very close comparison (size, weight and power, anyway) to the newly released .22 sig asp20 in beech stock.... these gas strut / piston guns are not very 'tuneable' , tho ... we can put lighter springs or heavier tar inside the hw97's to smooth them out..... if you're shooting field target get the expensive hw97 (in 5mm with laminate stock even) ... but if youre killin stuff , the sig ... i cant believe golenstateairgunner's story with sig cust service !! ...he really put that .22 asp20 he got when they were first available through the ringer , man . . . . but now he gets these numbers ?? that's like a .22 diana 460 , man !! { Now it shoots 13.3 gr Wraith alloy pellets at 890 fps in warm weather. The Sig Crux lead pellets at 14.7 gr average 860 fps. I was pleased with Sigs Customer Service Dept. } - keep bending lead !! - paul
" i cant believe golenstateairgunner's story with sig cust service !! "
When I sent mine back the turn around time was 2 weeks. It was 28 total days from the time I shipped it FedEx and the day it arrived back at my doorstep. Of course, that was nearly 5 months ago. Maybe they are more busy now. The bottom line is it's not a story. It's fact. ;-)
As far as velocities go. I've really been dabbling in how temperatures effect velocity of the Sig. My findings probably hold true for any gas-spring airgun. I use a FLIR temperature gun and take readings of the receiver tube before chronograph testing. Some results.
Gun temperature 68 deg
Sig Crux alloy 9.6gr. 1055 fps
Sig Wraith alloy 13.3gr. 884 fps
Gun temperature 82 deg
Sig Crux alloy 9.6gr. 1066 fps
Sig Wraith alloy 13.3gr. 887 fps
The light Crux alloy pellets are really affected with higher temperatures while heavier pellets see less gains. The highest Crux alloy velocity I've had was 1077 fps. The most efficient ( weight to velocity ratio ) pellet in my Sig is the Crux lead. These pellets weighed at 15gr get 850 fps in warm weather. The same pellet weighed at 14.7gr. gave me 859 fps the other day in warm weather. The Crux leads have been the worse as far as being advertised weight. The Crux is listed as 14.66gr but 60-70% of them weigh 15 to 15.3gr. They are very accurate and efficient in the Sig though. Plus, I'm nearly at the 24 ft lb mark with the Crux lead.
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