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    Moog
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    klentz

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    Klentz's HW 35L ("Luxus") is possibly the most beautiful Weihrauch rifle I have ever seen, period…which is sayin' something! As he noted, it's very tempting to think it was an individual factory special of some sort; besides the jaw-dropping wood, the metal polish and blueing seem extraordinary. But hey, I'm not envious or anything, LOL…

    That pattern of Luxus stock – classic German "hogs back" comb line, "stretched hexagon" Bayern cheekpiece, and rounded finger-groove fore end – was made up until the mid 1970's I think (after which the "L" became a more squared-up fore end with Monte Carlo comb and American-style cheekpiece). The 300035 serial dates to 1969.

    The wood is European walnut (juglans regia); a.k.a. Royal, Circassian, Turkish, French, etc. It tends to have a lighter, warmer color than North American black walnut (juglans nigra) and as you can see, is capable of equally spectacular figuring. This is the wood you see on older HW 35's and 55's and the golden-era spring-piston match rifles from Walther, Anschutz, FWB, and Diana.

    Thanks for chiming in Mike.  As you well know, the early Walther's had some nice wood too:

    I've never seen a springer with a set trigger before.

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    According to AoA , it is shooting 8.4gr JSBs at 780fps. I didn't bother running it over the chrony as my #s are usually the same as AoAs.

    I have tried 3 different pellets so far, 8.4 JSB, 7.87 AA & 7.33 AA. At 25 yds, other than POI, they all shot the same, dime size groups. Keep in mind I started shooting for groups with only 10rds down the barrel. Also, this is straight out of the box. All I did was run a couple of patches thru the barrel. The trigger definitely needs adjustment, it is a little on the heavy side. With some more time with the rifle and a trigger adjustment, I have no doubt I could get the groups down to thumbtack size.

    I didn't know how I was going to feel about the barrel latch but I like it. No smacking the barrel to break it open and after just a few shots it started to become habit. Also, I really like the lock-up, sounds like the proverbial bank vault

     

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    According to AoA , it is shooting 8.4gr JSBs at 780fps. I didn't bother running it over the chrony as my #s are usually the same as AoAs.

    I have tried 3 different pellets so far, 8.4 JSB, 7.87 AA & 7.33 AA. At 25 yds, other than POI, they all shot the same, dime size groups. Keep in mind I started shooting for groups with only 10rds down the barrel. Also, this is straight out of the box. All I did was run a couple of patches thru the barrel. The trigger definitely needs adjustment, it is a little on the heavy side. With some more time with the rifle and a trigger adjustment, I have no doubt I could get the groups down to thumbtack size.

    I didn't know how I was going to feel about the barrel latch but I like it. No smacking the barrel to break it open and after just a few shots it started to become habit. Also, I really like the lock-up, sounds like the proverbial bank vault

    Weihrauch has done away with the forend finger grooves in the new updated stock? Man, that's gonna sting for a lot of folks, myself included. That was the most "classic" feature on the rifle. 

    Also, did you remove the front sling swivel?

    It does still look very handsome though, and the stock looks to have a very nice shape while keeping a classic look. And sounds like yours sure does shoot! Congrats, and I hope you continue to enjoy it for a long time. Thanks for the pics!

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    MP44
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    No front swivel. Does seem kind of odd for them to install a rear but no front. 

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    No front swivel. Does seem kind of odd for them to install a rear but no front. 

    I agree, that's strange. Might ought to shoot Weihrauch a message and ask about that. 

     

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    I caught that also but just figured it had been removed. Oh and the missing groove? I'm glad I got the used 1.

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    L4z4r0s
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    According to AoA , it is shooting 8.4gr JSBs at 780fps. I didn't bother running it over the chrony as my #s are usually the same as AoAs.

    I have tried 3 different pellets so far, 8.4 JSB, 7.87 AA & 7.33 AA. At 25 yds, other than POI, they all shot the same, dime size groups. Keep in mind I started shooting for groups with only 10rds down the barrel. Also, this is straight out of the box. All I did was run a couple of patches thru the barrel. The trigger definitely needs adjustment, it is a little on the heavy side. With some more time with the rifle and a trigger adjustment, I have no doubt I could get the groups down to thumbtack size.

    I didn't know how I was going to feel about the barrel latch but I like it. No smacking the barrel to break it open and after just a few shots it started to become habit. Also, I really like the lock-up, sounds like the proverbial bank vault

     

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    Wow!!! That's a nice looking rifle!!! But it seems a little different than the 35e that is pictured in the weihrauch catalog. Is this a new stock design by weihrauch or a custom one? The finger grooves the old one gave the rifle a more classic retro feel to it. 

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    L4z4r0s

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    According to AoA , it is shooting 8.4gr JSBs at 780fps. I didn't bother running it over the chrony as my #s are usually the same as AoAs.

    I have tried 3 different pellets so far, 8.4 JSB, 7.87 AA & 7.33 AA. At 25 yds, other than POI, they all shot the same, dime size groups. Keep in mind I started shooting for groups with only 10rds down the barrel. Also, this is straight out of the box. All I did was run a couple of patches thru the barrel. The trigger definitely needs adjustment, it is a little on the heavy side. With some more time with the rifle and a trigger adjustment, I have no doubt I could get the groups down to thumbtack size.

    I didn't know how I was going to feel about the barrel latch but I like it. No smacking the barrel to break it open and after just a few shots it started to become habit. Also, I really like the lock-up, sounds like the proverbial bank vault

     

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    Wow!!! That's a nice looking rifle!!! But it seems a little different than the 35e that is pictured in the weihrauch catalog. Is this a new stock design by weihrauch or a custom one? The finger grooves the old one gave the rifle a more classic retro feel to it. 

    Straight from AoA. This is from a fresh batch from HW. A few days before I ordered AOA's website showed OOS. I emailed to see when they expected them in and the reply said  they just came in and they hadn't updated their website yet. I assume this is the way all HW35Es will be from now on. Hopefully not the one sling swivel. That would be stupid because if you bought your own front swivel it will be a mis-match

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    thumper

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    No front swivel. Does seem kind of odd for them to install a rear but no front. 

    I agree, that's strange. Might ought to shoot Weihrauch a message and ask about that. 

     

    Just sent a message to weihrauch asking about the stock and the front swivel. Fingers crossed, they should answer sometime tomorrow!! I'll post an update!!

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    L4z4r0s
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    L4z4r0s

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    According to AoA , it is shooting 8.4gr JSBs at 780fps. I didn't bother running it over the chrony as my #s are usually the same as AoAs.

    I have tried 3 different pellets so far, 8.4 JSB, 7.87 AA & 7.33 AA. At 25 yds, other than POI, they all shot the same, dime size groups. Keep in mind I started shooting for groups with only 10rds down the barrel. Also, this is straight out of the box. All I did was run a couple of patches thru the barrel. The trigger definitely needs adjustment, it is a little on the heavy side. With some more time with the rifle and a trigger adjustment, I have no doubt I could get the groups down to thumbtack size.

    I didn't know how I was going to feel about the barrel latch but I like it. No smacking the barrel to break it open and after just a few shots it started to become habit. Also, I really like the lock-up, sounds like the proverbial bank vault

     

    [img][/img

    Wow!!! That's a nice looking rifle!!! But it seems a little different than the 35e that is pictured in the weihrauch catalog. Is this a new stock design by weihrauch or a custom one? The finger grooves the old one gave the rifle a more classic retro feel to it. 

    Straight from AoA. This is from a fresh batch from HW. A few days before I ordered AOA's website showed OOS. I emailed to see when they expected them in and the reply said  they just came in and they hadn't updated their website yet. I assume this is the way all HW35Es will be from now on. Hopefully not the one sling swivel. That would be stupid because if you bought your own front swivel it will be a mis-match

    I see! Interesting thing to see on a rifle like this. I mean it's considered a classic and the finger grooves were a distinctive feature. Still the new updated stock looks really really nice too!! Is it still walnut?

    The front swivel was probably just forgotten? I have sent message to weihrauch so I guess we will have to see what they answer.

     

    Also, really love the scope you put on the rifle!!! It gives it a very sleek look!!! What is the model?

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    The scope is a Japanese Bushnell Banner 4X32. I purchased it as new old stock. I adjusted the parallax to airgun distances. 

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    The scope is a Japanese Bushnell Banner 4X32. I purchased it as new old stock. I adjusted the parallax to airgun distances. 

    I see!! From what I can find it has been discontinued. Ah, unfortunate..

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    UPDATE: Weihrauch answered to me on social media about the stock and the sling swivels on the hw35e.

     

    According to them this is a new stock design that will replace the older one with the finger grooves. 

     

    As for the sling swivels, the rifle will STILL have both of them (stock and barrel). So perhaps the reason why your rifle didn't have a front swivel is because they forgot about it during qc or something? (i asked them about that too).

     

    Here is the full response i got from weihrauch on the hw35e:

    "Good morning,
    thanks again for your questions.
    Yes, the stock was just changed, this is probably one of the first ones.
    This will be also published shortly on our website and in the feed on Instagram.
    On the model HW 35 E there are still sling swivels both on rear stock and barrel.
    Probably the barrel one was put down.
    Have a good start in the new week!
    Best regards,
    TeamHW"

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    L4z4r0s

    UPDATE: Weihrauch answered to me on social media about the stock and the sling swivels on the hw35e.

     

    According to them this is a new stock design that will replace the older one with the finger grooves. 

     

    As for the sling swivels, the rifle will STILL have both of them (stock and barrel). So perhaps the reason why your rifle didn't have a front swivel is because they forgot about it during qc or something? (i asked them about that too).

     

    Here is the full response i got from weihrauch on the hw35e:

    "Good morning,
    thanks again for your questions.
    Yes, the stock was just changed, this is probably one of the first ones.
    This will be also published shortly on our website and in the feed on Instagram.
    On the model HW 35 E there are still sling swivels both on rear stock and barrel.
    Probably the barrel one was put down.
    Have a good start in the new week!
    Best regards,
    TeamHW"

    Thanks. I sent AoA a message through their website.

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    And the double trigger function, what purpose?  Safety or what?  Gorgeous looking stock by the way!

     

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    klentz
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    And the double trigger function, what purpose?  Safety or what?  Gorgeous looking stock by the way!

     

    That's a DST (Double Set Trigger).  It came from the Walther factory on this 10 meter gun.  One trigger sets the sear the other fires the gun.  My trigger gauge weighed the "second stage" at less than one ounce.  These triggers were quickly outlawed for 10 meter competitions and so were tyrolean stocks since they provided too much advantage to the shooter.  Guess this is an outlaw gun.

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    thumper
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    I have a flintlock that I built with period correct double set triggers from the 1850s. I'm always amazed at how much they can help accuracy. I'm surprised more guns never used them. Especially if they have been around for almost 200 years. 

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    I have a flintlock that I built with period correct double set triggers from the 1850s. I'm always amazed at how much they can help accuracy. I'm surprised more guns never used them. Especially if they have been around for almost 200 years. 

    thumper,

    Thanks for chiming in.  You certainly understand what I said about the DST.  Just hit it with a feather and it goes off

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    L4z4r0s
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    Another rifle that had a double set trigger was the sharps rifle. It used to be a very accurate rifle that was used extensively for buffalo hunting in the old west!!! If I recall correctly there was a version of it with a very old primitive scope that was designed for use by sharpshooters!!

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    As mentioned above, I sent AoA a message thru their website. 

    I did not receive a response from them but I did get a shipping notice from them. I "assume" it is the swivel ( hopefully an OEM swivel ) but I do have some scope mounts on backorder so I will not know until the package arrives.

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