Hunting for another scope. 3-9 question

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wyshadow

wyshadow

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As the title says, I'm looking for another scope. I have a question for someone who can answer it or point me in to the right post if someone has already asked. Why have a scope thats 3-9 power mildot radical? Is it because on power 9 the image is blurry so everyone uses 8 power. I'm guess this answer because of the scopes I have. I have several hawke 4-12 power scope but I don't like setting the power to 11 or 12. 10 power seems to have the best clarity for hunting. If I have to quickly aim at something close, lets say 8 yards, I just quickly turn my power to 4. Its the same with my 8-24 power scopes where I mostly use 20x and 10x. What mildot measurement is 3-9 set at? 8 or 9? I noticed most scope's mildots are set to either 10 or 20. My guess the true mildot for a 3-9 power is set at 8x and 1/2 mildot at 4x.
 
Ted did a great video using JSB pellet tins (3.6") =1 mildot @100yds The Gatorade tops are very close to (1.8")=1/2 Mildot. or 1 dot @ 50yds You don't need to guess. Another way is to accurately gauge your scope height, go to HawkeBRC2 put in a generic X reticle. Then rely on accurate ranging and a correct BC and just calculate the pellet drop in inches at say 6 and 9 power. Throw technology to the wind, make a cross on a pizza box shoot at your zero and walk it out to the furthest distances you fell comfortable with.
 
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I recently bought a Leapers UTG Bug Buster (3-9x32) for my sons rifle on eBay for 60 bucks. I must say, for the money it's actually quite a decent scope and it even comes with a sun shade, lens caps and some good quality mounts. The parallax starts at 3 yards up to infinity and the scope even focuses at less than 2 yards. You might want to consider it, especially for that amount of money. For close range, it's an excellent piece of kit!

Still have to find out what the true mil dot setting is though. But I assume it's 8.

http://www.leapers.com/prod_detail.php?level1=CQB&itemno=SCP-M392AOLWQ
 
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@T3PRanch; Thanks Thurmond! 

@wyshadow; If you're not using it for long distance precision shooting (one hole groups at 50 yards for instance), and use it for hunting or plinking, it's a actually a better reticle. A bit thicker reticle allows for faster target acquisition. That's my professional experience at least (ex-militairy). And yes, it's a really clear piece of glass!
 
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Short Answer: ​Have to calculate it yourself!

Leapers response:

"Thank you for your email regarding the SCP-M392AOLWQ scope.
The mil-dot reticle is designed to be used at 10x magnification.
The SCP-M392AOLWQ scope has a 9x magnification.
This requires a slightly different calculation to obtain accurate ranging.
I have attached a chart that can be used with this scope at the 9x setting."

http://www.t3pranch.com/T3PRanchAirgunSolutions/Pictures/Mil-Dot%20Chart-900.pdf



Thurmond

 
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"wyshadow"I am looking the utg bug buster for my prod. Everyone says the glass is very clear but most people complain about the thick mildot radical. Is the thick radical a deal breaker or can someone work with it for short range shooting? 5 to 30 yards. 50 yards at the most
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The bug buster I had wasn't that clear. It was ok for the money (like most UTG products). I'd put one on a Sumatra carbine but not on a Cricket. 

 
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My buster just came in today and first impression is this is a really nice scope. The glass is really clear and the mildot radical is super clear. I was worried the radical would be really thick but they look great to me and not much different then my hawke 4-12 scope at close range. About 50 yards I can tell a difference in clarity as compared to my hawke but this scope is going on my prod which will be mostly 35 yards and under. I really like how the scope matches my prod now by making it looked more compact but in reality it doesn't short my prod. It just give my prod a really nice cool factor.

I noticed a small allen screw in with the scope package but not sure where it goes.

A side by side comparison:




 
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It's a prefect scope for quick target acquisition, specially in urban situations. It's actually built for rifles like the AR. The reticle is thick, the eye relief is way to small for regular rifles, you have to push your eye practically against the ocular lens, and it has somewhat of a fish-eye effect on the outer regions, But all things considered, yeah... for a scope in this price range it's quite decent. I have one on my HW30S, because that's my quick grab rifle. ;) 
 
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Jonnes,
I forgot to mention the eye relief. The eye relief is to close for comfort. When using two scope rings, I had to position my head further forward then normal which makes shooting the gun a little uncomfortable. I thought about using one scope ring to push the scope further back but I'm not sure about using one scope ring
 
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If you shoot of the bench or prone, it might be an issue, I agree! But shooting from a standing position, it's doable. I used to own a Barska 3/9*40 scope that was way better for $20 bucks more. Clear as daylight, good quality glass and no fish-eye effects or other blurring on the edges. Sold it with my HW50S (and still regret it). But for the money, you can't complain. It takes some getting used to. ;) 
 
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