How much power is enough?

I’m currently playing with my streamline 22 on its lowest power setting shooting starlings. I’m only shooting 10-20 yards and with Crosman destroyer pellets it has been dropping them pretty easy. I shot a few with my r5m long 25 set at 55-58ftlb. I honestly like how quiet my streamline and sumo are on this low setting. At further distances I use my r5m, I’m really impressed with what a large hollow point pellet will do at the 20yards and under distance....guess I need some polymags for the EDgun. 
 
These pellets are not accurate past 30yards no matter the power setting on my gun. I’ve gotten a few birds between 100-110yards with the 18grn jsb. I’m just impressed with how these pellets slowed way down are dropping these birds. I’m need to try more pellets then just domed in both my streamline and r5m. I really want to try the hades when they come out. 5 starlings so far!
 
The other side of this I’ve been surprised how many times I’ve heard a real solid WACK sound on a pigeon and had it fly off seemingly unaffected

I honestly feel a lot of these issues are due to projectile design. I’ve had a few fly offs with domed pellets just to watch them fall out in flight. The hn extremes do really well out of my r5m and instantly kill them. If the newer hades has accuracy like the domed pellets and will expand instead of zipping through it will be a winner. I feel this is why a lot of guys are going to slugs for the accuracy and expansion.

I look at it like deer slugs, I grew up shooting the plain rifles Winchester slugs. I had to track most of my deer and had clean pass throughs on vitals. The newer slugs that are designed to expand sooner and dump the energy in the vitals has really stopped them in their tracks. 
 
Blubberboy where you using 22 in the 18fpe range? Break barrel? I to have experienced this in that fpe range. I swear the feathers act like a big cushion and absorbs it all and I guess the bird bounces off the pellet. Not the case with a 177 in the same fpe range. The 17 blazes right threw. It has to be the surface area of the 22?

Duck hunter know this theory, I’ve hit ducks and you could hear it hit them. A few feathers fell and they flew off like nothing happened. I grew up working at a hunting club and was a backup shooter for paid hunters, the pattern master extended range choke and 3.5bbbs made my job easier. 
 
Blubberboy where you using 22 in the 18fpe range? Break barrel? I to have experienced this in that fpe range. I swear the feathers act like a big cushion and absorbs it all and I guess the bird bounces off the pellet. Not the case with a 177 in the same fpe range. The 17 blazes right threw. It has to be the surface area of the 22?

Thus the old adage, .177 for feather critters and .22/.25 for fur bearing critters. I'm a believer. I thumped a crow at about 25 yds with my .25 Marauder and JSB Kings (45FPE). Hit him hard in the left back area but it didn't put him down. My .177 works much better than that on crows. JMHO
 
Pigeons are not easy to drop with an air rifle. Just because they fly off doesn't mean they didn't die just out of sight. There's no way a good hit with a pellet of any significant power will deflect off of their feathers. It likely passes right on through leaving just a hole in them. Where I live there are very few trees, wide open terrain, and we usually watch a center-punched pigeon fall out of the sky within 5-10 seconds when their check engine light comes on.

After shooting hundreds of them with everything from a 10fpe co2 gun to a 17fpe Mendoza to my .22 Mrod at 30fpe, I've found shot placement is key to eliminating fly-offs. A center-mass shot, even at 30fpe, will pass through them and frequently result in a fly-off. Aiming for the top 1/3 of their chest or head/neck will drop them quickly. A top of the chest hit will break their sternum or collar bone and they aren't going anywhere.
 
Yes, I haven’t shot a whole lot at pigeons Still learning but back a few months ago I had a day, well it was one of those perfect days. Shooting my red wolf standard 22 (not a hp) and I was pretty zeroed in on the pigeons and there was a bunch of them on top of the silo and I was tagging them regularly at 62 yards and I was surprised how many of them flew off after I clearly heard a solid wack. 

It does make sense that a 177 at higher velocity would penetrate a little better at close range . I doubt a 177 would do much good at 60 plus yards 

And shot placement of course but at 62 yards it hard to (well for me anyways) to take shots just on the upper third.
 
So I had a pair of crosman NPs in 17 & 22. Shot the same ammo threw them. The RWS super domes 8.4 and I think 14.5 and the crosman domes 7.9 &14.3. Both guns shot their same ammo pretty close to the same at 25yards both favored the RWS but the 22 failed to drop a pigeon to many times. The 177 I was comfortable taking shots out to 50-55. I wouldn't count on the 22 past 30-35, but pigeons are smart. They don't let you get close for to long






 
I know at 15 yards a .22 round nose JSB 18gr or 21gr H&N Barracuda (more of a point and harder lead) at 30fpe will go into a skull of a raccoon or possum. Both have thicker skulls than you would imagine for critters that size. I would guess a small bird getting hit with a .22 at 30ft lbs is probably like a .38 in human scale. And a .25 may be like a .357 magnum where as a .30cal is like a .44 magnum. It doesn't take much for foul, hollow bones and the like.

Now the two crow I got dropped instantly with a .22, if feathers are some kind of armor I would doubt it based on my limited experience. Those English use their sub 12fpe guns to great effect on all manner of animals. Use whatever ammo you know is accurate and aim for the noodle.
 
My main point in starting this was stating how impressed I was with how much better a hollow point style pellet does even at slower speeds then a domed pellet. I’ve owned and shot a lot of high powered rifles, but honestly my cz527 varmint Kevlar in 204 and my cz452 in 17hmr are two of my favorite. My larger rifles just sit, I really enjoy the 17 on starlings at my buddies farm. It sounds like you whacked them with a board at 150-200 yards and it dumps most of its energy. I guess I should get me a air rifle for longer range like a raw