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    Rodeo
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    As an excuse to get some trigger time before I leave….   I went out and shot the Wildcat so I could refill it and count the pumps it took.  I filled from 2000psi (140bar) to 3400psi (235bar).  The psi readings are taken from the gauge on my G6 pump.  The bar readings are taken from the Wildcat's gauge.<.25 Wildcat 300cc tank >  – input psi to pump= approx 30psi   – 6 pumps to prime pump and line to 2000psi  – 115 pumps to go from 2000 to 3400psi

    Usually it takes a few less pumps but I do change the input psi to suit my mood and tonight I decided to make it a little easier to pump.

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    Hampton
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    Do you have to let the pump cool during the session?  

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    Polyphemus21
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    My PCP has a 280cc reservoir with max psi being 200 bar or about 2900 psi.  I try to use some discipline when I shoot.  When it gets down to 2000 I top up.  For my gun which is a tuned Kral Puncher Breaker I am getting about 30 shots (.22).  Maybe a little more.  It takes maybe five minutes to pump back to 2900 with my Hill 4-stage pump.  It helps to use a little weight on the downstroke.  When I received the Kral it had maybe 1200 PSI left in the tube.  Just to make sure I was going easy on the pump I stopped three times for five minutes after I reached 60 strokes.  So it took around 180 total and about 25 to 30 minutes for the initial fill.

    I have actually found this gun to be a bit more pleasant to refill than my Gamo Urban that operates at higher pressure with a much smaller tube.  It takes less effort overall.  But for the money I sure wouldn't trade that Urban either.

    I really don't mind using the hand pump as I do more casual shooting and some hunting where I stalk a lot between shots.  I actually enjoy pumping the guns as it reminds me of hand loading for my powder burners.  An additional advantage of hand pumping is that you are unlikely to heat up the reservoir on your gun like you can do if you rush a fill from a high pressure tank.

    Welcome to the PCP world and have fun!

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    Rodeo
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    I limit it to 100 pumps per session.  It does get fairly warm but not so much as to cause a problem for o-rings.  If you are boosting off of a compressor you could open the hand pump bleed valve and let the flow of air from the compressor cool the pump.

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    Saltlake58
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    My Marauder has a 215CC reservoir.    30 shots = about 100 strokes, or three strokes per shot from 1800 to 2800 PSi.  Might be a little less no a Hill pump, but no less than 80 or 90 strokes.  

    From 1800 PSI to about 2500 PSI it isn't bad.  That last 300 or 400 PSI is a real bear having to drop full body weight on the pump handle to drive it to the ground.  Granted, I'm not the healthiest, but still, it takes the fun out of shooting.  I bought this thing to shoot, not pump.

    Anyway, as the story goes, I bought the gun, pumped it up a couple of times, and realized it wasn't any fun to pump and bought a tank.  Best investment ever!  For the price of a good pump (about $225 for a Hilll??) you are over 2/3 of the way to a buddy tank at $350 that includes all the fill equipment.  Check it out, as it's a whole lot more fun that way.

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    MoeHofer
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    I pumped up my Hatsan 1000s of times. Sure kept my blood pressure in check! Lol. Its a wok out, dont kid yourself. 

    In my opinion, hand pumps are obsolete. Yong heng compressors killed them. For under 300$ you can simply flip a switch, wait 2 minutes and PRESTO! A fully charged PCP! 

     

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    Hampton
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    True, a compressor sounds nice.  But what do you do in the woods or at the range?  I haven’t checked the specs but I don’t think I can plug one of those things in to my truck?  Then again I hope I’m not taking 50+ shoots hunting or maybe I do ?.  The range is a different story.  Either you pump or you have a bottle.  Also, I’ve read the Yong Heng compressor has some reliablity issues.  Having a hand pump, even as a back up sounds like the way to go.  Pumping a 100 or so times, taking a break, then topping the gun off doesn’t sound bad at all….

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    Polyphemus21
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    In that case you would buy a compressor for home, plus a good bottle.  Charge up the bottle to take with you in the field.  So, yeah, you would wind up owning a bottle and a compressor as you can't charge a bottle without a good compressor.

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    Bob_O
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    I wish I would have bought a CF tank from the start.  I pumped a Streamline 22 for a few months…..no fun at all.  150 pumps on a Hill MK4.  I pumped the Wildcat 25 once or twice and believe me that was miserable.   Now it takes less than a minute to fill from my 74 cu.ft. 4500psi CF tank…….I will never go back to a hand pump.

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    Rodeo
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    Yup, I see the benefits of a compressor.  Yes, I want a compressor.  It needs to be reliable, have support in USA, have parts available, provide dry air and pump faster than me doing it with a hand pump.  Soooo how much is that going to cost me?

    $$$$.$$

    Guess I'm gonna still be pumping for awhile.

    …….and back to the OP's question.  R10 200cc tank – 1800 to 3400psi – hand pump boosted @ 35psi – 92 pumps + 6 priming pumps.

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