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How far do you think your slugs could go

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April 27, 2022 at 12:07 am Link

puddleglum
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One reason I like air rifles shooting pellets is the maximum distance an errant pellet can go is something like 400 yards. So, with a good knowledge of your surroundings, you could take a shot at a squirrel out on a branch. With a rimfire rifle you want a backstop since that bullet can go a LOT farther.

Now air gunners can drive .22 cal 40gr slugs upwards of 1000fps. I wonder how far those can go? Anyone have an educated guess, anecdotal evidence, or some numbers they have run?

I wonder how hollow slugs, like FX hybrids, fly. They must have a low ballistic coefficient compared to a solid slug, but must travel farther than a pellet. I wonder how much.

Just to be clear, not at all criticizing use of slugs at high speeds, I am sure people are being safe. I am mostly curious.

One reason I like air rifles shooting pellets is the maximum distance an errant pellet can go is something like 400 yards. So, with a good knowledge of your surroundings, you could take a shot at a squirrel out on a branch. With a rimfire rifle you want a backstop since that bullet can go a LOT farther.

Now air gunners can drive .22 cal 40gr slugs upwards of 1000fps. I wonder how far those can go? Anyone have an educated guess, anecdotal evidence, or some numbers they have run?

I wonder how hollow slugs, like FX hybrids, fly. They must have a low ballistic coefficient compared to a solid slug, but must travel farther than a pellet. I wonder how much.

Just to be clear, not at all criticizing use of slugs at high speeds, I am sure people are being safe. I am mostly curious.

April 27, 2022 at 2:56 am Link

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You can download ballistics software and plug in the values to get your answer. ChairGun Pro is still available and free. Although it is no longer supported or updated, it is still used by thousands of people, myself included. It is free and safe if downloaded from the link above.

Or you might prefer Strelok. I don't have the safe link for Strelok, but you can look for it yourself. I think there is a free and pay verison.

You can download ballistics software and plug in the values to get your answer. ChairGun Pro is still available and free. Although it is no longer supported or updated, it is still used by thousands of people, myself included. It is free and safe if downloaded from the link above.

Or you might prefer Strelok. I don't have the safe link for Strelok, but you can look for it yourself. I think there is a free and pay verison.

April 27, 2022 at 3:54 am Link

MRA_Field_Target
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General firearm saftey for 100fpe .22 is 1 mile of safe backdrop. Being propelled by air doesn't change that.

April 27, 2022 at 3:10 pm Link

delooper
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The ballistic calculators do an excellent job of these sorts of problems. They're not 100% accurate, but they're good-enough for these sorts of speculations. Given the near infinite tunability variations of airguns, that's the way to go.

April 28, 2022 at 12:15 pm Link
DesertSilver
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Use the one on here. There's a app for Android with the label of max range.

https://gpc.fotosoft.co.uk/Home.html
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Use the one on here. There's a app for Android with the label of max range.

https://gpc.fotosoft.co.uk/Home.html
April 28, 2022 at 11:17 pm Link

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A mile is certainly in play with a 40 grain slug at 1000 fps fired at a high angle. I'd have to set it up in CGP and need a good BC to give a better answer than that.

Suffice it to say EASILY three times as far as a pellet at the same muzzle velocity.

May 8, 2022 at 12:23 am Link
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OldCrow

A mile is certainly in play with a 40 grain slug at 1000 fps fired at a high angle. I'd have to set it up in CGP and need a good BC to give a better answer than that.

Suffice it to say EASILY three times as far as a pellet at the same muzzle velocity.

I think I need to check how far my 10.5 grain .177 pellets *might* travel at ~750fps. I already know the FPE, but never have used ChairGun Pro to see how far that pellet can travel under optimal conditions with the optimal inclination.

Just wandering and wondering… (smile)
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OldCrow

A mile is certainly in play with a 40 grain slug at 1000 fps fired at a high angle. I'd have to set it up in CGP and need a good BC to give a better answer than that.

Suffice it to say EASILY three times as far as a pellet at the same muzzle velocity.

I think I need to check how far my 10.5 grain .177 pellets *might* travel at ~750fps. I already know the FPE, but never have used ChairGun Pro to see how far that pellet can travel under optimal conditions with the optimal inclination.

Just wandering and wondering... (smile)
May 8, 2022 at 1:04 pm Link
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OldCrow

A mile is certainly in play with a 40 grain slug at 1000 fps fired at a high angle. I'd have to set it up in CGP and need a good BC to give a better answer than that.

Suffice it to say EASILY three times as far as a pellet at the same muzzle velocity.

I think I need to check how far my 10.5 grain .177 pellets *might* travel at ~750fps. I already know the FPE, but never have used ChairGun Pro to see how far that pellet can travel under optimal conditions with the optimal inclination.

Just wandering and wondering… (smile)

😉
- This reply was modified 1 week ago by OldCrow.
- This reply was modified 1 week ago by OldCrow.
BackStop

OldCrow

A mile is certainly in play with a 40 grain slug at 1000 fps fired at a high angle. I'd have to set it up in CGP and need a good BC to give a better answer than that.

Suffice it to say EASILY three times as far as a pellet at the same muzzle velocity.

I think I need to check how far my 10.5 grain .177 pellets *might* travel at ~750fps. I already know the FPE, but never have used ChairGun Pro to see how far that pellet can travel under optimal conditions with the optimal inclination.

Just wandering and wondering... (smile)

;)
May 10, 2022 at 11:28 am Link

qball
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MRA_Field_Target

General firearm saftey for 100fpe .22 is 1 mile of safe backdrop. Being propelled by air doesn't change that.

👆👆👆👆 👆 excellent point!

May 10, 2022 at 2:19 pm Link

OldCrow
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puddleglum

Now air gunners can drive .22 cal 40gr slugs upwards of 1000fps. I wonder how far those can go? Anyone have an educated guess, anecdotal evidence, or some numbers they have run?

Three fourths of a mile, with no tail wind. Terminal velocity will likely be in the hundreds of feet per second. I did not run that, sorry.

May 11, 2022 at 9:35 am Link

woogie_man
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Much further than you think they will go. A 22 long rifle can go much further than a mile as well….. there are to many variables that come into play. Just make sure you know what is behind your target before shooting. That is common knowledge to us shooters anyway.

May 14, 2022 at 5:55 am Link

scooter
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I saw a video of some guy's shooting 650 yards and hitting their target (a steel ram I believe) and the slugs had fully mushroomed, so……

May 14, 2022 at 6:10 pm Link

csitas
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Air rifles?

May 14, 2022 at 9:31 pm Link

OldCrow
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csitas

Air rifles?

Ayup. It doesn't matter what you are using for power, it's all about muzzle velocity and ballistics coefficient.

May 17, 2022 at 3:27 pm Link

Squack
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An old shooter told me that at 400 – 450 yards, a 40 gr LR would tip over after striking a target due to the extreme angle.

May 17, 2022 at 7:31 pm Link
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