@Motorhead I’d be interested purchasing this type of tool if it reduces flyers. We all know that dented up skirts will be an ongoing issue. If you start selling this tool please let us know.
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Simplest method I've found is to load bent pellet into my magazine & then use the head of a like pellet to shape the bent skirt. Easy Peasy & works for me every time. Similar diameter ball bearing works too if you have one but the pellet dome into pellet skirt is easiest for me!
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Taking the logic of Scott's idea and moving into the 3d printed world. I am prototyping something that I can use as a gauge to make a pelseat on my 3d printer which can be used both to straighten a skirt and seat the pellet. The idea is to use the gauge to quickly match a specific pellet and then print the skirt tool using those specs. Each of the little points on this prototype are slightly different. Still very much a work in progress but you get the idea and maybe someone will be able to take from it.
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Biggest issue I see with a printed part is that of having a LACK of hardness and a SMOOTH surface finish to burnish a pellets skirt I.D. while reshaping without removing lead.
Just constructive thoughts ....
Just constructive thoughts ....
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Yeah that is the problem I am working on in making the gauge. It's hard to get a resolution above about 100 microns on the vertical axis. That takes forever to print (at 200 microns 2 and a half hours) too so that piece is done at 200 microns. There are a lot of other problems. The plastic I am using is PETG (same thing water bottles is made of). It stands up really well to abrasion (can't sand it worth a flip). That's because it is very stringy and not at all brittle. More like a hard nylon... or delrin. I think it is soft enough not to remove much lead but getting that surface smoothness is hard. It's worth figuring out how to make the gauge anyway. A CAM machine could cut them out all day long once the parameters were discovered for a specific pellet.
Just an idea and keep those thoughts coming. I am learning to hear.
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I haven't done it yet, but I might try rolling out some epoxy putty and press well formed lubed pellets into the putty to leave an impression of a good skirt.
Make several of them in the piece of putty and only use the 'good' impressions to reform bad skirts, if they aren't too badly mangled to begin with. A little out of round might be fixable, but the recent JSBs I've gotten have been pretty messed up. Tins are fine, but not the pellets inside...
Make several of them in the piece of putty and only use the 'good' impressions to reform bad skirts, if they aren't too badly mangled to begin with. A little out of round might be fixable, but the recent JSBs I've gotten have been pretty messed up. Tins are fine, but not the pellets inside...
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I tried this and I think it would work.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=thermal+plastic+beads+oral+care+products&_sacat=0
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I was killing time today and stumbled on a thread that mentioned pellet sizers. I poked around and found a vid from 2019 on YouTube of an HM pellet sizer however, can’t seem to track down where they sell them the link to ED Guns was a dead end.
https://youtu.be/Qlv9QK611no
Saw one on eBay made by or for TTS from the UK but .25 (6.35) is out of stock, they do have other sizes available.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Original-TTS-Pellet-Sizer-for-all-air-rifle-pellets-/133329653797?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
Then I stumbled onto this one, looks like it tweaks the skirts too.
https://www.trrobb.com/product/adjustable-pellet-sizer-177
Shows that it’s in stock albeit a bit pricey with the cost of shipping added. Probably would be a good idea to contact them before ordering to confirm shipping to the US and all that jazz. Thought I’d pass this along.
I was killing time today and stumbled on a thread that mentioned pellet sizers. I poked around and found a vid from 2019 on YouTube of an HM pellet sizer however, can’t seem to track down where they sell them the link to ED Guns was a dead end.
https://youtu.be/Qlv9QK611no
Saw one on eBay made by or for TTS from the UK but .25 (6.35) is out of stock, they do have other sizes available.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Original-TTS-Pellet-Sizer-for-all-air-rifle-pellets-/133329653797?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
Then I stumbled onto this one, looks like it tweaks the skirts too.
https://www.trrobb.com/product/adjustable-pellet-sizer-177
Shows that it’s in stock albeit a bit pricey with the cost of shipping added. Probably would be a good idea to contact them before ordering to confirm shipping to the US and all that jazz. Thought I’d pass this along.
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MOST bent skirt pellets can be fired as-is with no large impediment to accuracy so I shoot them as-is if not too bad so long as it doesnt appear actual material is missing.
Well, I DONT have the nerve to use them in matches, but for FT it actually might not hurt on the average shot. I suspect for BR it might cost points.
But for most shooting I look at it and either use it or throw it away.
Back in the day, when I first got my shop going in the garage, I did make a tool like Scott S’s, only longer and double ended, but soon tired of having it ready and lost it.
Try shooting a few group at 30yds or more then squeeze. A dent into the skirts of a few and shoot them too ... if you mostly shoot dime sized groups, the bent ones should still be able to closely match em.
im sortof sortof dyslexic and always see mispelled words i missed later. ... often ciome back to fix some
Well, I DONT have the nerve to use them in matches, but for FT it actually might not hurt on the average shot. I suspect for BR it might cost points.
But for most shooting I look at it and either use it or throw it away.
Back in the day, when I first got my shop going in the garage, I did make a tool like Scott S’s, only longer and double ended, but soon tired of having it ready and lost it.
Try shooting a few group at 30yds or more then squeeze. A dent into the skirts of a few and shoot them too ... if you mostly shoot dime sized groups, the bent ones should still be able to closely match em.
im sortof sortof dyslexic and always see mispelled words i missed later. ... often ciome back to fix some
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I have one of the TT sizers in SS and I also use it to fix bent skirts besides sizing pellets. Doesn’t work nearly as well as Motörhead’s machined marvel, but it gets the job done.
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TR Robb used to sell a great pellet sizer that could size head or skirt a bit smaller independently, and even size the skirt to be larger or smaller than the head if desired! Back in the eighties, I won a .20 cal. Version, and liked it enough to buy a .177 cal version too. Later sold em when I found sized and unsized didnt mix and I mostly stuck with batch sampling and weigh-sorting, Now it seems ammo is better and so its mostly from tin to gun, with no washing, weighing or lubing like was common back in the day.
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Baker did a short video recently that SEEMED to show skirt damage impacting velocity noticeably. SEEMED because it was only a very few shots. And he didn't test for any change in POI, only chronograph readings. But it was interesting to see. He stated an actual accuracy test was coming. THAT would be more interesting to me than varying opinions.
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