I shoot powder burners with some friends who had never shot a modern PCP. I just let them shoot my airguns and explain that I am able to shoot a lot more with PCPs and that's why i always out shoot them with powder burners 
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How do you explain to others why you shoot air rifles
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Biggest practical advantage may be the opportunities that air rifles give you for follow-up shots on nearby animals. They're not as likely to permanently spook a flock of birds. Also, I remember Ted was called in to do some pesting on a farm where the farmer was putting his animals off their feed every time he used his PB. The airgun was so quiet that the animals barely noticed.
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I've come across this myself and actually I found that 3 things make people change there minds
I military guy asked me why I opted for a pcp one day while I was at the park I simply told him think of the power of a hand gun with the precision of a riffle mixed with no sound he kind of laughed and I gave him an option lets go to your house and shoot.... and this is what he said.. holy crap no recoil its just as accurate as my AR and it literally has no little to no sound although its expensive he quickly understood why I like them
another example was a few friends of my fathers.. they cam over to the house one day when I was plinking and of course picked on me so I made a game of it 2 of them are hunters and there good don't get me wrong but it was great I love shooing wind chime bars I hang out on trees there only like a cm thick so there a challenge once you get out there in distance.. so its my .25 wildcat verse there .22 which they use for squirrels and rabbits fair enough comparison. And boy where they impressed as I was hitting the chimes out at 75 yards and they could not .. so I simple explained out side of speed overkill they really for the small game they don't need all that crazy power and worry about pass threw. other them having to do the math to compensate for the drop ratio not only was my riffle accurate and had the power to do what's needed but the sound was an immense difference.. and I made a joke you shoot a rabbit and the rest scatter I shoot a rabbit and they come over thing what the heck Jerrys taking a nap and ping now carl is HAHAHAHA they have stopped picking on me in fact we use my 3 pcps to have fun and plink in the back yard to practice before they go out deer hunting thank god I have a bottle now or my pump would be ruined lol and as I am told one of them just put an order in for a Maximus so him and his son can have fun plinking and taking out pest birds... and as most of us know you get 1 cheep you'll get another soon enough hahahaha
I military guy asked me why I opted for a pcp one day while I was at the park I simply told him think of the power of a hand gun with the precision of a riffle mixed with no sound he kind of laughed and I gave him an option lets go to your house and shoot.... and this is what he said.. holy crap no recoil its just as accurate as my AR and it literally has no little to no sound although its expensive he quickly understood why I like them
another example was a few friends of my fathers.. they cam over to the house one day when I was plinking and of course picked on me so I made a game of it 2 of them are hunters and there good don't get me wrong but it was great I love shooing wind chime bars I hang out on trees there only like a cm thick so there a challenge once you get out there in distance.. so its my .25 wildcat verse there .22 which they use for squirrels and rabbits fair enough comparison. And boy where they impressed as I was hitting the chimes out at 75 yards and they could not .. so I simple explained out side of speed overkill they really for the small game they don't need all that crazy power and worry about pass threw. other them having to do the math to compensate for the drop ratio not only was my riffle accurate and had the power to do what's needed but the sound was an immense difference.. and I made a joke you shoot a rabbit and the rest scatter I shoot a rabbit and they come over thing what the heck Jerrys taking a nap and ping now carl is HAHAHAHA they have stopped picking on me in fact we use my 3 pcps to have fun and plink in the back yard to practice before they go out deer hunting thank god I have a bottle now or my pump would be ruined lol and as I am told one of them just put an order in for a Maximus so him and his son can have fun plinking and taking out pest birds... and as most of us know you get 1 cheep you'll get another soon enough hahahaha
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I have a co-worker who didnt get it either. He shoots PB.
I can shoot off my back deck, no earplugs needed, does not alarm the neighbors. I can have 2000 match grade pellets delivered to my door for under $60 including shipping ($52.96 to be exact from PA).
That is 2000 squeezes of the trigger.
The fundamentals are the same as shooting rimfire, or centerfire. And even more challenging.
Dont have to pack up the car with all the stuff I need to go to the range to shoot PB.
The only real concern (aside from basic safety) is lead exposure in the soil and I solved that with a homebuilt pellet trap and some old jeans.
And shooting small groups from really far away with air is just dang cool!
I can shoot off my back deck, no earplugs needed, does not alarm the neighbors. I can have 2000 match grade pellets delivered to my door for under $60 including shipping ($52.96 to be exact from PA).
That is 2000 squeezes of the trigger.
The fundamentals are the same as shooting rimfire, or centerfire. And even more challenging.
Dont have to pack up the car with all the stuff I need to go to the range to shoot PB.
The only real concern (aside from basic safety) is lead exposure in the soil and I solved that with a homebuilt pellet trap and some old jeans.
And shooting small groups from really far away with air is just dang cool!
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What I do is let the gun speak for itself. Let them shoot it. They will soon see why. Its quiet, more than likely has a better trigger than any rifle they own, probably has I higher mag capacity than there PB and probably shoots better.
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My niece hates guns but will shoot my impact and actually had me take a picture of it and put it on her Facebook. I figure it is a good start for an anti gunner to learn that all guns are not these noisy arm busting sticks. That is one reason for shooting them. Kids and younger adults won't put up with the noise and recoil like a lot of us do and did when we were young. Myself and my friends would go to school and show off the bruise you got from shooting your first 12 gauge and how it almost or did knock you on your backend the first time you shot it.
In the next year I will put more rounds through my impact then any 3 guns I own (not including my 22s).
In the next year I will put more rounds through my impact then any 3 guns I own (not including my 22s).
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I have also had luck with people that do not care for PB but will enjoy shooting my PCP's. It's a joy to see someone who is scared to hold a gun smile and say that the "gun" is actually fun. Then watch them burn your pellets up . Worth every penny in my book though.
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I could explain it to you...but then I'd have to kill you!
If I have to explain it to you...you won't understand!
If I have to explain it to you...you won't understand!
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As you guys have said, I get to shoot more. It's less expensive to shoot. Safer for the back yard. Quiet so your neighbors aren't disturbed. Very accurate. No kick. And, I do not enjoy cleaning guns. It's a chore for me but, my pcp can go quite a while between cleanings.
But, when someone is asking me to justify myself, I have a standard answer:
1. This is America.
2. I'm over 18.
3. I pay my taxes.
Therefore I'll do as I frickin please.
(my girlfriend knows this refrain by heart! hahaha! - "Yeah, I know, you're over 18, pay your taxes, etc, etc...)
But, when someone is asking me to justify myself, I have a standard answer:
1. This is America.
2. I'm over 18.
3. I pay my taxes.
Therefore I'll do as I frickin please.
(my girlfriend knows this refrain by heart! hahaha! - "Yeah, I know, you're over 18, pay your taxes, etc, etc...)
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Air is just a very cool way to project a projectile. It's actually quite refined. The modern high end PCP is a excellent piece of machinery. They are very accurate and it's just plan fun to shoot an accurate gun. And you can blow through many rounds for relatively little money. What's not to like!
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Most people I know imagine a BB gun when talking about air rifles. They think is really lame. So, I show them my Vulcan and fire off some shots, then they're like "Wow! Very very cool!".
In fact, I took it to the rifle range the other day and had a small crowd around me wanting to know what that cool gun was. I heard several powder burner guys say, " I've got to get one of those. "
In fact, I took it to the rifle range the other day and had a small crowd around me wanting to know what that cool gun was. I heard several powder burner guys say, " I've got to get one of those. "
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You are lucky that they let you shoot at an indoor range. There is a 100 yd indoor range near my house that I tried to go to, they wouldn't even let me get my Slayer .357 zero in. Saying, they are afraid the pellets (they dont' know the Slayer .357 uses bullets) won't make it down range and would scattered all over the lane.
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Well, like another member said, shoot 'em in the leg, then say, "What about now? Still think it won't make it down the range?"
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I just let them look at me like I'm nuts, but they alwise will stop to watch my last video shooting s***
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I shoot both air and powder. The most successful explanations I give are the ways that they are similar rather than different.
I ask, would you like to be a better shooter? (Yes)
What if I could give you the ability to practice 1000 yd shooting, including wind doping, trajectory and time to target, all in your own back yard, safely and quietly? (How?)
By practicing with high quality airguns. (Yeah, right)
This is about the time I ask them to describe the first shooting they ever did, probably an airgun or a .22. Have you ever had that much fun shooting since? Probably not. Want to?
Setup some army men or similarly small sized targets and play a game of shooting H.O.R.S.E. One of my favorite airgun games. Shoot standing, sitting, prone, left handed,etc. If they aren't smiling by now they don't really enjoy shooting. Halfway through I remind them how cool it is that we don't have to yell or wear earplugs oh yeah and the house, snacks and a bathroom are right behind us.
By now they probably want to know where you got your gun and how can they get one.
It's like many other hobbies, if you are really excited it is infectious and others will want in. If you defend your irrational fascination with cat's eye marbles, they will just walk on.
Ted made us all want to be better shooters, not because he showed us how good a shot he was but by showing us how much fun he was having!
Be like Ted.
I ask, would you like to be a better shooter? (Yes)
What if I could give you the ability to practice 1000 yd shooting, including wind doping, trajectory and time to target, all in your own back yard, safely and quietly? (How?)
By practicing with high quality airguns. (Yeah, right)
This is about the time I ask them to describe the first shooting they ever did, probably an airgun or a .22. Have you ever had that much fun shooting since? Probably not. Want to?
Setup some army men or similarly small sized targets and play a game of shooting H.O.R.S.E. One of my favorite airgun games. Shoot standing, sitting, prone, left handed,etc. If they aren't smiling by now they don't really enjoy shooting. Halfway through I remind them how cool it is that we don't have to yell or wear earplugs oh yeah and the house, snacks and a bathroom are right behind us.
By now they probably want to know where you got your gun and how can they get one.
It's like many other hobbies, if you are really excited it is infectious and others will want in. If you defend your irrational fascination with cat's eye marbles, they will just walk on.
Ted made us all want to be better shooters, not because he showed us how good a shot he was but by showing us how much fun he was having!
Be like Ted.
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I have had airguns as a youth.
I bought a sheridan about 10 years ago(I am 60)
I own 38 pb in a assortmeent.
Most were bought used,because I felt the quality was better .
The new guns I bought that I felt were made beautifully were my bennelli ,my Springfield garand,my t/c hawken.
Got bit again by the Airgun bug due to n.y.and their laws,the cost of ammo and the availability of ammo.
I say it again can find 22 ammo Really?
I recently bought a beeman 97 in wood.
What I like about the airguns of today you can buy high quality English,German,Swedish,Turkish air arms that for the most part are beautifully made.
So when some chooch looks at the beauty and the quality of my beeman 97 and asks how much.
I tell them a $1000 with scope .
SO far I haven't seen a lot of guns that come to the quality of my German honey.
I haven't seen other airguns honestly,but after I am done with my collection of springers ,I know any air arms,fx ,brocock Walther,Air Force gun will also be a quality instrument.I will get into pcpafter I get some other springers I have my eye on
I have 38 guns in all calibers, yet I can shoot all day for under $10, and don't need the noise,expense,and the restricions.
I see a lot of young cops who don't understand the attraction, but most now a days handle a gun for the first time on the job.
I can't show great groups because the gun is new,but I know in time my groups will impress a real shooter.
Just my humble opinion
I bought a sheridan about 10 years ago(I am 60)
I own 38 pb in a assortmeent.
Most were bought used,because I felt the quality was better .
The new guns I bought that I felt were made beautifully were my bennelli ,my Springfield garand,my t/c hawken.
Got bit again by the Airgun bug due to n.y.and their laws,the cost of ammo and the availability of ammo.
I say it again can find 22 ammo Really?
I recently bought a beeman 97 in wood.
What I like about the airguns of today you can buy high quality English,German,Swedish,Turkish air arms that for the most part are beautifully made.
So when some chooch looks at the beauty and the quality of my beeman 97 and asks how much.
I tell them a $1000 with scope .
SO far I haven't seen a lot of guns that come to the quality of my German honey.
I haven't seen other airguns honestly,but after I am done with my collection of springers ,I know any air arms,fx ,brocock Walther,Air Force gun will also be a quality instrument.I will get into pcpafter I get some other springers I have my eye on
I have 38 guns in all calibers, yet I can shoot all day for under $10, and don't need the noise,expense,and the restricions.
I see a lot of young cops who don't understand the attraction, but most now a days handle a gun for the first time on the job.
I can't show great groups because the gun is new,but I know in time my groups will impress a real shooter.
Just my humble opinion
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JUSTIFY(?!) My hobby without leaving my own property, from vermin eradication, property damage control, squirrel stew, grain fed bird pot pie, shooting in my basement 40', outside 100' range, ballistics & accuracy, maintenance, new equipment, new pellets, reading and study, safety, the forum, fellow air gunners. My investment of about $4500 for 2 FX rifles,( good equipment works better), a good scope with QD mounts switchs between rifles and an average of .04/ shot compared to building, racing, 4 wheeling, vehicles, model train lay outs, boating,clothes shopping,
camping, weekly dining or movie & snacks per year. In my urban setting I have a ball, I can shoot any time I choose. I have legally suppressed my shots & always have a back stop for any pellet fired. Stopped raccoon invasions of my attic (look up raccoon roundworm for a scare),
our egg laying ducks and hens are not killed and eaten nor the rabbits, no more dog vs 'coon encounters. Lawn furniture stuffing doesn't become squirrel & coon nests. People leave pet food outside 24/7; they spread seed for ground feeding doves & pigeons daily. There no end of 'coons, squirrels, and doves. We have a resident hawk which flys in for a meal a day somewhere in the neighborhood. Crosman .22 pellets have been as low as 6.89 per 500 tin here and and I laid in a supply. JSB .25 pellets for 'coons in bulk from Pyramyd Air with free shipping
at 3 to 4 cents a round beats rimfire and reloads of free lead cast bullets and once fired brass reloads ( 6 cents ) . I have access to 100 yd+ shooting simply by sharing my rifles with my friend a 15 minute drive away. A shoe box compressor and a couple of short oxygen bottles make
refilling easy. PBs became a pain. Range fees, drive time, cost of a range background check, cost & ammo restrictions. My airgun is a necessity and the benefits substantial. My initial expense becomes becomes less with each bit of damage I prevent, each meal I eat, and the
satisfaction of hitting my mark. So realize what you have vs what the PBer has: we can shoot 24/7 never leaving the property, airguns can be had from $150 to $4000(?), pellets average .04/round, vermin control.
This is a great hobby as long as you control each shot and do no damage. Remember never "........... Shoot your eye out"
camping, weekly dining or movie & snacks per year. In my urban setting I have a ball, I can shoot any time I choose. I have legally suppressed my shots & always have a back stop for any pellet fired. Stopped raccoon invasions of my attic (look up raccoon roundworm for a scare),
our egg laying ducks and hens are not killed and eaten nor the rabbits, no more dog vs 'coon encounters. Lawn furniture stuffing doesn't become squirrel & coon nests. People leave pet food outside 24/7; they spread seed for ground feeding doves & pigeons daily. There no end of 'coons, squirrels, and doves. We have a resident hawk which flys in for a meal a day somewhere in the neighborhood. Crosman .22 pellets have been as low as 6.89 per 500 tin here and and I laid in a supply. JSB .25 pellets for 'coons in bulk from Pyramyd Air with free shipping
at 3 to 4 cents a round beats rimfire and reloads of free lead cast bullets and once fired brass reloads ( 6 cents ) . I have access to 100 yd+ shooting simply by sharing my rifles with my friend a 15 minute drive away. A shoe box compressor and a couple of short oxygen bottles make
refilling easy. PBs became a pain. Range fees, drive time, cost of a range background check, cost & ammo restrictions. My airgun is a necessity and the benefits substantial. My initial expense becomes becomes less with each bit of damage I prevent, each meal I eat, and the
satisfaction of hitting my mark. So realize what you have vs what the PBer has: we can shoot 24/7 never leaving the property, airguns can be had from $150 to $4000(?), pellets average .04/round, vermin control.
This is a great hobby as long as you control each shot and do no damage. Remember never "........... Shoot your eye out"
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Hi guys,i am Spyros from Greece...i dont think that we must explain to anyone why we like what we like...we do it because we think that is fun and practical...thats my opinion...i have one fx indy bullpup 25 cal and i love shooting it!! Here it is one of my videos...i hope you enjoy it...thank you!!
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"What do you think?" lol Good balistics demo. I have seen UK videos that do the same thing to fresh kills on fox. Yes, plenty of power.
I tell same thing to PBers. 1). Can shoot anytime I wish in the backyard. ANYtime (NiteSite). 2).Cheap to opperate/ammo/air. 3).Same skillsets required, even more so due to a pellet's funky BC.
The fact we can hone our skills, daily if weather permits, allows the airgunner an advantage over an exclusively powder user who has to sit and marvel at his rig until the next range day.
I usually get gawked at and a crowd gathers at a range. The Wolverine's stock is the first thing they see then the bottle. I load pellets and they say "where is the group at?" See that hole....?
I tell same thing to PBers. 1). Can shoot anytime I wish in the backyard. ANYtime (NiteSite). 2).Cheap to opperate/ammo/air. 3).Same skillsets required, even more so due to a pellet's funky BC.
The fact we can hone our skills, daily if weather permits, allows the airgunner an advantage over an exclusively powder user who has to sit and marvel at his rig until the next range day.
I usually get gawked at and a crowd gathers at a range. The Wolverine's stock is the first thing they see then the bottle. I load pellets and they say "where is the group at?" See that hole....?
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