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mtnGhost

mtnGhost

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I've been noodling the pro's and con's of a few airguns that are on my radar. The Impact that I had was a good exercise in figuring out what I want out of a high powered PCP. 

Heres what I'm looking for:

  • .22 or .25 (slug / heavy pellet capable - .30 might be doable, but I have a big bore build planned in the near future, so unless this checks all the boxes - that will be a different story)
  • high power (~100fpe would be great, but somewhere closer than further)
  • tight groups to at least 125y
  • shrouded (much closer to backyard friendly than a Texan .45)
  • quality build and durable enough for outdoor hunting in the miserable PNW outdoors
  • replacement parts available
  • Not an FX nor a Daystate

I have a few rifles on my radar:

  • RAW HM1000X LRT - this is a beautiful looking rifle! It appears to be very high quality, I'm not sure if QC is an issue now that AF owns the brand though
  • Huben K1 - I never thought that this would be on my list. I don't like a few things about it, to include their magazine system (also seems limited on slug lengths). Reliability issues are a concern of mine too, but the power is perfect!
  • RTI Priest 2 - it is starting to intrigue me, I'm not sure the power is where I'd like it to be though
  • AAA Evo Tactical
  • Beaumont - they do have the .22 with 118fpe! I'm not interested in importing anything though, and I definitely want to keep the base sticker tagower than a new imported Beaumont

I'm essentially looking for something solid with power out of the box that I could scale up later on down the road if I chose to do so. I wouldn't want to have to machine parts, become a YouTube celebrity for unicorn upgrades, just to get reliable LR groups with heavier ammo. With that said, I don't mind upgrading with parts that are readily available, and I would definitely be in a better position towards the end of the year to build my own upgrades- I just don't have the time right now to do it, and want something that I can just tune and shoot.

I know that I'm probably missing some options, thoughts?








 
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The Sumatra .25 the good, price, shoots most pellets very accurately, six shot mag. Shoots hunters supply 49 grain flat nose slugs great, variable power, cheap mags. The bad, loud, minimal wood foregrip difficult for sling. Diminishing shot curve. no real tutorials for takedown - maintainence.
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The Sumatra has power, I'll give it that - but thumbs down in all other categories. It also looks like it has some kind of an identity crisis, like Doc and Marty kicked it out of the Delorian in 1885 and 2005 at the same time 👀 

I'd be shooting this off of a bipod from the ground (not a table / vice) ~90% of the time and hunting with it the rest - ergomonics / balance would be good. Adjustability would also be nice (stock, cheek weld, and I'd need Picatinny rail(s), I wouldn't want to adapt dovetail$. 
 
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Agreed it's Koreans answer to the six shooter mating with a 94 Winchester, The gun will shoot rocks accurately and it takes some getting used too. It was not till recently I put the slugs in it. I used it on full power at full charge for usually one shot. Put a big Neil Clague, or Donny on it's north of four feet. I used it with 25 grain JSB's on the lowest setting, was quiet and good enough for pin point 20 yard rat shooting. The comb is too low with high mounts and night vision. Lots of users are happy with the Flex.
 
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Your question is answered in your 1st listing. Get a RAW & be done with all guns. Martin still works there & CNC machines don’t know AF bought them. I’m personally not happy about that switch either but since I stupidly sold both AZ Rapids, don’t have much choice.

You can get a hot RAW .25 with custom barrel for pellets or slugs. Non choked barrels CAN shoot both accurately but it’s rare. I’ll expound on how my Sumatra. 25 puts .253” 50 grain slugs in 1/4” @ 40 yards 6-10 clicks up on wheel & will do the same with JSB 25.43 (4) clicks up on wheel or 33.95 no more than 8 clicks. You’re wasting air if set higher without a longer barrel or inline reg.

More on RAW. They can give you a .357 that’s set up for 90 ft lbs & over 45 shots. Or 130 ft lbs & 16 regulated shots. As far as a .30, check out these #’s & yes, a higher fill carbon fiber bottle, slight adjustments & any barrel you want to get slugs higher. https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/raw-hm-1000x-25-or-30-for-100-yards-and-beyond/


 
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I would highly consider a power tuned Cricket.25 from Goergia Airguns, talk to Charlie. I have one and it's amazing to say the least! Right now mine is set up shooting JSB 34gr. @ 890fps. I can turn it up to over 926fps. It's not pellet picky. I can shoot Air Arm 25gr. @ over 1000fps with groups @ 50yds almost 1-hole. I mainly hunt with H&N Grizzlies. I have repeatedly shot several 100yd groups you could cover easily with a quarter or less. This thing is a Beast but very accurate. After getting mine, my Father and 3 friends have gotten one and love them in bullpup and carbine versions. They are built to hunt. I have taken many squirrels and other prey out to 102yds in the field. 
 
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HM1000x LRT is outstanding and IMO the .25 rules for power ( all things considered ) .

Made in TN as always buy the very same folks as always. And OT their .357 can hit "200fpe" is needed.

For me the .25 is as large as you can go w/out dealing with a bunch of extra motion to deal with when firing.



Please post back up when you get whichevere.



John
 
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Has anyone mentioned the WAR Flex yet?
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I looked into them recently, the guy building them scaled back operations by 90% - I would like to get the rifle and be able to shoot it before I retire LOL! I'm fact, for the lead time alone - I'd have to rule out an AAA.

@edosan - I'm probably ruling it out due to the integrated magazine, but it does have the power. This rifle's requirements are far different than what I was seeking when I bought the Impact.

@rangur1 - the R5M is on the table, but it's a little too bulky for my taste. I think the Vulcan would also be teetering on the bulky edge, but I haven't ruled either of the out.

@jammin22 - I hadn't considered a Cricket, I didn't think they had the power that I was looking for (I was under the impression that they had smaller regs), I'll have to do more research into them and see though!

At this point - I'm leaning towards a new RAW HMx LRT with a second custom slug barrel. I actually enjoy shooting pellets though, I just do not enjoy shooting under 100y.




 
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HM1000x LRT is outstanding and IMO the .25 rules for power ( all things considered ) .

Made in TN as always buy the very same folks as always. And OT their .357 can hit "200fpe" is needed.

For me the .25 is as large as you can go w/out dealing with a bunch of extra motion to deal with when firing.



Please post back up when you get whichevere.



John
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Yeah, they seem capable of delivering some impressive power. I wonder if there's any differences in the internals between the .22 - .357 👀 
 
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HM1000x LRT is outstanding and IMO the .25 rules for power ( all things considered ) .

Made in TN as always buy the very same folks as always. And OT their .357 can hit "200fpe" is needed.

For me the .25 is as large as you can go w/out dealing with a bunch of extra motion to deal with when firing.



Please post back up when you get whichevere.



John
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Not made in TN anymore!

Everything Has been moved to Texas at the Air force factory....
 
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LOVE THIS POST! Feel like I wrote it in a dream. I love the idea of a super strong .22.



Notvtgat im satisfied but I just got my $500 kral shooting 22.5gr slugs at 980fps this weekend after removing some metal, adding some rubber and polishing some contact parts. 5 pellets touching at 70yds, 48fpe, BC of .074, bullet expands to over .4cal on impact.



Im not to were you want to b yet but I love the pursuit and share in your quest. Thanks for everyone sharing their thoughts and suggestions.
 
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From your list I would get the AAA Evol or Raw. The Evol will probably be a few months waiting where as you could probably find a RAW in stock somewhere now...
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HM1000x LRT is outstanding and IMO the .25 rules for power ( all things considered ) .

Made in TN as always buy the very same folks as always. And OT their .357 can hit "200fpe" is needed.

For me the .25 is as large as you can go w/out dealing with a bunch of extra motion to deal with when firing.



Please post back up when you get whichevere.



John
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Man, this has been a TOUGH decision to make!!! Trying to be very careful about not getting into something that I'm going to wind up frustrated or disappointed with, but one that I'll be able to enjoy for years to come. 

I did make a decision finally, it came down to a few factors - quality, high power, lever action, and accuracy. Out of all the ones that were on my list (that extended beyond what I had above) I decided to order this guy in .25 with the right-hand action in camo:

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Leading up to this purchase, I was thinking about a Crown, but didn't want the fragilility of the Crown barrel (nor another FX). The HMx LRT is pretty much everything that I want, and that camo laminate is just sick! 

Ordered direct from AirForce with FedE Prio Overnight, hoping their 3/31 in stock estimate isn't going to extend past that further, but we'll see 👀 


 
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