high power 22 for small game

Don’t listen to the FX naysayers. I own four and never a problem. If you are close enough to drive to dealer, I would recommend that and shoot a bunch of different guns, then decide. I heard the hubens are hard to clean because you can’t remove the magazine.

There must be some validity to it because Airguns of Arizona is no longer carrying FX air gunsl. If you look on their website they only have a few left in stock
 
maybe i need to clarify... i live in the northeast usa and the reason im looking at high power is i have a hatsan flashpup that i put a huma reg in as well as a hatsan at-44. the flashpup advertises 29ft lb in 17 cal and 38 ft lb in 22 cal. after extensive testing im barely getting 26 ft lb in 22 cal. i have found at 30-50 yds its just not enough on large gray squirrels. most run off wounded. its very accurate mind you. so i want to bump it up in the (honest) 40-50 ft lb range. if it actually got 38 ft lb it would probably work. the best i managed was 28 ft lb with the reg set at 170 psi and the hammer maxed out. only got 5 usable shots before it dropped off

If you really need more knock down power for grey squirrels go with the 25 caliber. Bigger hole and transfer of energy and better for chest shots. I also own five FX rifles and no problems with any of them. And the reason AOA does not carry FX rifles did not have to do with quality. With FX you will appreciate the accuracy, shot count, trigger and adjustability of many of their rifles. For walking in the woods the FX Dream Pup with carbon fiber bottle would give you a compact, light rig with high shot count. Or maybe the FX Wildcat .25 cal Compact for its forward cocking lever though lower shot count. Bill
 
maybe i need to clarify... i live in the northeast usa and the reason im looking at high power is i have a hatsan flashpup that i put a huma reg in as well as a hatsan at-44. the flashpup advertises 29ft lb in 17 cal and 38 ft lb in 22 cal. after extensive testing im barely getting 26 ft lb in 22 cal. i have found at 30-50 yds its just not enough on large gray squirrels. most run off wounded. its very accurate mind you. so i want to bump it up in the (honest) 40-50 ft lb range. if it actually got 38 ft lb it would probably work. the best i managed was 28 ft lb with the reg set at 170 psi and the hammer maxed out. only got 5 usable shots before it dropped off


Don't know if the reg is causing the low power levels or not but my .22 Flashpup with JSB Metal Mags has worked well on Cottontails, Jacks, Gophers, and a Feral Cat. No Squirrels in the vicinity and I know how tough they can be. But cats are also a damn tough animal, and a headshot between the eyes didn't pass through and sprayed brains out one ear.

I don't have a chrono so I don't know the FPS but Steve Scialli's videos have the flash series rifles performing as advertised. My only adjustment is one turn out of the hammer spring and if I do my part the rifle does it's. I have no doubt a gray squirrel is no match out to 50 60 yards.

It also does well with JSB Ultra Mags and three more turns of the hammer spring but I only get about 10 good shots and IMO the advantage is only at longer range which I rarely need.
 
I second the call for FX or Brocock. I have a Wildcat II in .30 cal and it's a laser. I had one issue with the hammer spring adjuster back out which was an easy fix. I've put 1000's of rounds through it with no issue and it pumps 70 FPE all day long with 44.75 jsb's - It shoots 50 grn hollow point slugs almost as good fyi. I'm looking hard at the Brocock myself for a gun in .25 cal - Cheers
 
+1 for JimNM's response. Optics made all the difference for me. Having good quality glass, the ability to adjust parallax down to 10 yards and having open turrets is a game changer for sure.

hitting my target is not the issue. heres a 50 yd
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Taipan veteran. I had mine stock at 44.9fpe with redesigned monsters 25.4 grain shooting dime groups at 80 yards when i do my part. Beautiful trigger, accuracy and great power I'm currently looking for a heavier spring to up my velocities for shooting slugs. So far slugs do quite well hit harder but with less fpe and on par with the jsb monsters redesigned as far as accuracy goes. Also I've been hearing really good things about the uragan and I really want to pick one up. Awesome power, trigger is great, great shot count, etc. 
 
+1 for JimNM's response. Optics made all the difference for me. Having good quality glass, the ability to adjust parallax down to 10 yards and having open turrets is a game changer for sure.

hitting my target is not the issue. heres a 50 yd
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Shooting targets and hunting or pesting are not the same, similar maybe. Shooting live critters is not the same as groups on a target. At the ranges you describe. And at the energy level your Flashpup is producing those should be dead squirrels. Lethal shot placement is key. That said, I like my Bantam Sniper HR and love my Compatto. Both are 30 FPE .22s, and can take squirrels or chucks out to 50 yards if I do my part. A good scope will definitely up your kill ratio.
 
maybe i need to clarify... i live in the northeast usa and the reason im looking at high power is i have a hatsan flashpup that i put a huma reg in as well as a hatsan at-44. the flashpup advertises 29ft lb in 17 cal and 38 ft lb in 22 cal. after extensive testing im barely getting 26 ft lb in 22 cal. i have found at 30-50 yds its just not enough on large gray squirrels. most run off wounded. its very accurate mind you. so i want to bump it up in the (honest) 40-50 ft lb range. if it actually got 38 ft lb it would probably work. the best i managed was 28 ft lb with the reg set at 170 psi and the hammer maxed out. only got 5 usable shots before it dropped off

Micro gun, if you have your regulator set at 170 psi, then there’s your problem. That means your gun’s reg is set at like 12 BAR.

Im assuming it’s a typo. I think if you let all know some goals besides what critter your wanting to get, you’ll get better input. Like you want high shot count and at least 40 ft lbs, like a 40/40 tune? Or is shot count not important, but all out high velocity, high energy your goal? Single shot or magazine fed? Accuracy will be a given, of course. Finally, how about a budget? 

Lastly, do you plan to work on your own guns? Or are you ok with sending it off and being without for 3-6 weeks? I think if you give us info on all that I’ve listed, you’ll get a narrowed down answer.
 
Microgun and airgunmike54 Both of you inquired about the Priest. I have the Priest 2 HP version in .22 that I just received about a month ago and I am still getting to know the gun. It is my first PCP, so unfortunately I don't have experience with other guns to compare it to. Anyway It is very accurate and powerful. Mine is the .22 hp version with the 150 bar reg. I would just say that it has some unique characteristics (quirks). Here are some of those characteristics: It is loud and they do not come with baffles in the shroud (you can put Marauder baffles in the shroud). The forward cocking on the left side is convenient and I am starting to like it, but it is not smooth. however I am told by everyone that owns this gun that it gets much better with use. And mine being the .22 hp version (base model without adjustable reg) means that I have to use heavier pellets (21-25gr) at long range to keep the velocity down to get good accuracy. It shoots JSB 18.13's at 1000 and the Hades pellets at around 1050 or more. It shoots the 25.4 jsb redesigns around 900fps (46 fpe). 
 
I vote Crown, Impact, Ataman or Daystate. Depends on if you want a compact gun, ability to quick change carbon bottles, shoot pellets or slugs, or both. I never shot the priest but I like that the cocking handle is on the left (im a righty). 


I own a Huben and think its trash.. I was drawn in on the 80ft/lbs SEMI AUTO selling points. IMO its a research gun still in development but the price isn’t a developmental price, shouldn’t even be for sale. I lose a little respect for any airgun dealer selling these, its junk.

Best option IMO would be the FX Impact, decent support, lots of available parts, you can change calibers, shoot pellets or slugs, very versatile, compact and still long barrel due to its bullpup design, generous magazine capacity. You just cant buy it when you want, you have to wait until its available, thats why it took me so long to actually purchase one because when the airgun bug bit, something else was always more available.

Second option would be a Ataman M2R or FX wildcat. If you don’t care about overall length Daystate or FX Crown. I would get the Daystate from AOA.
 
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Microgun, I have three FX rifles and have had no problems whatsoever. They are definitely not as robust as RAW or Theoben, but they are definitely well made and light weight. My FX Royal .177 is very accurate and I have had it for over two years with many thousands of pellets down the barrel. Biggest problem has been having to clean the barrel (no problem)! I sure wouldn’t write off FX.