Help with international shipping!

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RabbitBlaster

RabbitBlaster

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Hi folks, 

I picked up a used pcp in tge US and had it sent to my mother. She is now trying to send it to me but having nightmares. It appears that a private citizen can ship an aurgun anywhere within the US but not internationaly and that takes a special license. Also there may be difficulties with individual shipping companies. On top of that there is ITAR and the scope that is on tge gun. The scope us a cheap Discovery scope from China and it does not have ITAR restricted stamped anywhere on it...but still it see.s like too hard basket for most.

Does anyone have any experience with this kind of stuff sbd can you help? I think it takes an FFL license to ship a pcp internationaly. I am at a loss now.

Thanks heaps
 
Would help to know which Country. NZ ? Should be fine, not on the ITAR list (scopes can be pretty iffy lot's of places), USPS and or fed/ex/other should be fine but I certainly can see poor Mom not being 100% hip & informed having one heck of a hard time. Say one wrong word and NO shipping for you. 

Just do all the research for her, cite evrything (everything, make/model/rule/regulation/... and print them out for Her?

And there are certainly Countries you should just forget about dealing with.

Just tried to surf up anything:

https://www.airgundepot.com/shipping.html#where



John


 
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Hi there, yes shipping to NZ.

I gave hrr all the regs i found but then at the uspa office they opened the reg book and ut said that they could not ship airguns. Fedex and others have been saying the same thing and it does appear in their regs but obviously they do ship for shops...so how does mom get around it? We are thinking that the only way is to have an ffl.
 
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Could it because some airguns are considered "firearms" in NZ, and the same paperwork-non-sens apply to to them?



From the USPS website

https://pe.usps.com/text/imm/mo_024.htm

Prohibitions (130)

Bank notes, coins, and other forms of currency are prohibited in all classes of mail, including registered First-Class Mail International items, First-Class Package International Service items, insured parcels, and Priority Mail Express International shipments, that are sent to New Zealand.

Firearms; and parts thereof.

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On some other part of the website, they mention some form needing to be filled for air-rifle with a muzzle velocity above 400fps
 
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There are no fpe upper limits in NZ and the lower limit is to insure that you do not simply wound an animal. NZ police and customs has already approved my request to import so it is perfectly legal here. The issues are on tge US side and range from lack of an ffl to shipping workers not being sure about regulations and not understanding nz regs. 
 
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Try sending the gun as spare parts, in 2 or more packages (of course, that requires that your mom takes it or ships it to a forum member or gunsmith who disassembles it).

(Scope won't work.)



Or, find someone that is travelling from the US to NZ.

I just got a PP700S-A that way to Peru.... No snags. Just 25% import tax and over an hour waiting for the paperwork.



Hope this works out for you! 😊
 
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SillyMike,

I don't think so, because there is no restriction to shipping parts, only guns.

Smuggling is not an offence against a shipping company's albeit silly rules, but against a country's importation rules, or the evasion of import tax.

Like bringing a 30FPE PCP to Germany with its silly 6FPE restriction....


 
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Apart from air pistols which are a prohibited import there are very few restrictions on importing Airguns into NZ. For pcp rifles a firearms licence and import permit are required, but for springers there are no restrictions.

The problem is the USA agencies own interpretation of the NZ rules. And it the truth be known there has been some form of conversation between the NZ and USA agencies to stop any form of airgun from passing the border.

I know of people who continue to import vintage or classic airgun parts from the UK, but I know that around a year ago when I tried to ship a custom stock from the US it was stopped by the USPS, despite there being no NZ restrictions on its import.
 
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