Help please, security cameras on a budget

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    spysir
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    NOT my field at all! For 30+ years I've not locked a door, no need.

    Times change tho.

    So a quick ( couple of hours , ugh ) Internet reading on security cameras and I am lost!    MUCH to much I do not understand and ratings/specs which seem the same but cost $300 to 5,000 for what reads the same to me so………………   .

     Just dont know what I want or need – do know I resent having to make the purchase tho and want it to work.

    MAIN want, to 24/7 observe the front Gate , about 490' from the front door.  Not too worried about the House – as I told the alarm salesman, "I',m hone 24/7 and heavily armed" but I've a need to monitor  the front gate and perhaps another out laying area or two.

       Would also like sound.

    Do NOT want "cloud" or cell phone "push" . DO want 24/7 local recording ( maybe record to a dvr drive type ?)    It is 500' clear line of sight, would rather have wireless , could run wire tho.  IF wireless it still needs power , most seem to be over a usb type wire and 5v (?)  there MUST be a power source – battery of some type maybe with voltage reg – I could plug in at the camera, right?  Wrong?   Exactly what/how would this be done?

     Never even seen a security camera system so just toatlly lost on all turms …   .

    Amazon has a couple of little kits with say 2-4 cameras and a base unit receiver & hard drive ( 1 terabyte seems common but I've no idea of the actual storage of a terabyte)  wireless, claiming 600' line of sight transmission . most running power through a cable which seem maybe close to what I want.

     Just any real world thought or ideas welcome. Direct links would really be outstanding.

     And maybe I need something totally different and I am open to listening. 

    Thanks you in advance.

     

    John

     

     

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    intenseaty22
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    John, I don't have a lot of experience in this field, but I did some research as I needed some monitoring at my house as well. I ended up getting the Arlo system, the kind you don't want, from Costco. Both wired and wireless systems have advantages and disadvantages. So, if I was going to get a wired system, I would check out what Costco or similar outfit has to offer. There is a 4 camera setup with hard drive right now available for $350. You will need to see how long the wires are and how they may or may not work with your setup at home. 

    If you want information on the wireless, smart phone systems, let me know and I can tell you what I do know. I have two different ones here. Ring and Arlo. 

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    intenseaty22
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    Here is a direct link to the $350 setup. the wires are 60 feet I think, you may be able to buy longer ones? 

    One of the advantages of my Arlo system is I can move the cameras around at will. They also have a battery pack and can use a solar panel to keep them going (I plan on getting a couple of these soon) I know you said you are not interested in these, but knowing your options can't hurt, so…

    Hope this helps a little bit anyway. 

     

    https://www.costco.com/Lorex-8CH-4K-DVR-2TB-4-UHD-4K-Bullet-Camera-Security-System.product.100397527.html

     

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    spysir
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    Thank you. 

    I would like to hear about any firsthand experience with any system and the name brands read nice but?

     On a good day we have 3meg Internet download speed and .2 upload which I read is not nearly enough?

    Any system that records would work, sound would be a +  but not needed.  our not so good Internet conection is what makes me question using so many of the systems.

    Would also like to hear about game cameras tho worry they would just be stolen.   Trespassing and vandalism being the need for "security" in the first place.

    Tahnks,

    John

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    jdh2550
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    I have several Wyze cams.  They can be found at http://www.wyze.com. I have 1 Wyze Pan and 4 Wyze version 2. Their forum on their website has a lot of good info.

    I didnt want to spend a lot on security cameras but wanted some piece of mind.

    These cameras upload a 12 second video clip to the cloud anytime motion is detected.  However you can insert a micro sd card and have several days of constant video.

    They have several useful features like IR night vision, push notification capability, a free android an iphone app, smoke detector and carbon monoxide detector alerts and more. 

    They are indoor cameras but I have them under a porch roof all winter with no issues.

    Best of all they are $30 or under per camera with NO monthly bill.  They are regularly updating the camera software and their app.

    I recommended them to a dozen coworkers and they all are super happy with their cameras.  Video quality is great.

    A local hit and run accident offender was caught because of one of my cameras.  I dont think he is a fan.

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    oldspook
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    Sounds like you need to research game cameras because of the distance you want them from the house.  Moultrie does have cameras which will take a snippet of video and upload it via a cellular attachment (which costs more)  I know you said you don't want cellular push … but  You are going to find that a solar powered system is expensive, obvious & for those reasons easily defeated.  Three or four inexpensive game cameras properly deployed and camouflaged will ensure that you get pictures even if one of the cameras is discovered.  I keep two on my drive way all the time.  They are set up to watch the approach and to watch each other.   Knowing who, even after the fact is all the Deputy needs to end the problem for you … Pictures of someone stealing a game camera are usually enough to make the thief a really unhappy fellow after the judge is done with him.

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    wyshadow
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    I used Lorex at the office and at our rental. The reason I choose Lorex is because of the price and you can choose a system without a monitor. You can use a normal tv as your monitor which saves you money. Lorex has every kind of camera system you want for any situation.

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    Scrufhunter
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    The wireless camera s off amazon.are ok. You can get larger antennas to transmit further. Yes they need power, there are also small solar panels designed for these types of cameras, all can be found on Amazon. The hard wire ones are great for around the home parameter. All the wires can be a pain. You do not need to have the systems hooked up to internet access. With them connected to the internet, you can view threw your phone, tablet or whatever, and so can anyone else. If in the event some one cuts the power to your home, they cut the power to you camera system. Best t o have a back up generator of some kind. I prefer solar…. most wireless cameras now days can plug into a tv via HDMI cable. If you do not have a safe room, you may consider hiding the DVR in the attic or place in a safe/cage. If some one gets into your home, they could take the DVR and all the video on it. You can always have the internet back you up on the cloud, but again internet connection leaves you open to hacking. I have several cameras on solar and they work great. Most of the camera systems you will find have a motion detection and area selection for each camera. Try to get camera to watch each other incase some one steals or breaks one. I also use game cams. Again if connected to the internet it can be hacked, or you have to go to the camera physically, and possible give away the cameras location.   Of all the Amazon cameras I have seen/delt with. They all use the same format/lay out operating system/software wise. They are pretty straightforward and easy to set up. 

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