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Help Needed: EBR questions in SE WI

After some initial discussion with my club here in SE Wisconsin, I am pondering starting up a benchrest league at our club. My thoughts at the moment would be to model the league after the AOA EBR matches with the intent of shooting 75 yard matches (and perhaps 100 yard as well). I found the rules linked from the AOA website, but wanted to know where I find scoring gages for .20, .25, .30, and .357 caliber pellets? It’s easy enough to locate .177 and .22 caliber gages from ISSF and Rimfire sites, but I seem to be having trouble with the other calibers (though I think I can find .204-which might cover .20 cal adequately). Any tips on where to find these? Also, are there official targets to be purchased somewhere for these matches? And are there more official rules that just the basics posted below? http://www.extremebenchrest.com/extreme-benchrest-rules/ Lastly, anyone in the WI - IL - IN area interested in participating in a league like this? Thanks in advance, Sean
 
"SMH77"Also, are there official targets to be purchased somewhere for these matches? And are there more official rules that just the basics posted below?
http://www.extremebenchrest.com/extreme-benchrest-rules/
Lastly, anyone in the WI - IL - IN area interested in participating in a league like this?
Thanks in advance,
Sean

Hi Sean,
I'd be interested. I wouldn't limit it to these 3 states. You might pull anyone willing to form the league together and agree on a common format. Are the rules up for discussion? Specifically this one:
No solid slugs or cast bullets allowed (mass production diabolo pellets only)

I think airguns will experience a natural progression toward bullets. This type of competition could drive innovation and influence the market, but not if it's being blocked. -Just a thought.
 
Thanks for the feedback. At this point, I need to find out who all is interested in shooting, and then discuss what events they are interested in competing in. Having said that, I am interested in running something at least 50 yards, but would prefer longer (75 or 100). I would also like to follow some established rules rather than start my own rules. The EBR format would provide a consistent format, and an opportunity for club members to go out west to compete as an extension of the season.

Having said that, I also like what you’re suggesting about having an open class where any projectiles would be allowed. I’ll have to keep that in mind as we discuss what format to follow.

I did also locate a manufacturer of scoring gauges (domestic) today that is willing to create a .25 cal gauge. However, they are requesting I try to find some online stores that will carry the gauges to help drive some demand and help justify the cost of running a special setup for the unique airgun caliber. I’m reaching out to a few places now to see if they will consider doing so...


Sean
 
I've run some 25M matches and competed in 25 and 50M matches. My family lives in WI so I get up there every so often. If I know your match schedule ahead of time, I'd like to attend. If I can offer any advice, please PM me.

Official USARB scoring plugs for .177 and .22 can be obtained from USARB. They are provided free to sanctioned clubs. Or, you can get them on Ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xtarget+scoring+plugs.TRS0&_nkw=target+scoring+plugs&_sacat=0
 
I had asked in the BAGA group on Facebook about a benchrest competition a while ago, but was told it was mostly FT, which doesn't trip my trigger much. Well, the American FT like they gave at EBR is kinda intetesting.

But yes, I would definitely be interested in such a thing based on the EBR model.

I live near Madison so a weekly thing isn't something I could do, given my RSO duties at the range I go to. But put me down for a yes!!!
 
"jps2486"I've run some 25M matches and competed in 25 and 50M matches. My family lives in WI so I get up there every so often. If I know your match schedule ahead of time, I'd like to attend. If I can offer any advice, please PM me.
Official USARB scoring plugs for .177 and .22 can be obtained from USARB. They are provided free to sanctioned clubs. Or, you can get them on Ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xtarget+scoring+plugs.TRS0&_nkw=target+scoring+plugs&_sacat=0
Sounds like a road trip eh Paul??
 
"Salticon"
"jps2486"I've run some 25M matches and competed in 25 and 50M matches. My family lives in WI so I get up there every so often. If I know your match schedule ahead of time, I'd like to attend. If I can offer any advice, please PM me.
Official USARB scoring plugs for .177 and .22 can be obtained from USARB. They are provided free to sanctioned clubs. Or, you can get them on Ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xtarget+scoring+plugs.TRS0&_nkw=target+scoring+plugs&_sacat=0
Sounds like a road trip eh Paul??
You talkin to me?
 
For relatively inexpensive scoring gauges, look into either gauge pins or steel dowel pins. I have used 1/4 inch steel dowel pins that are 1.5" long to score .25 caliber holes. They work very well. Gauge pins can be had individually in .001" increments quite easily, but you have to dig a bit around the listings for the sets. The source that comes to mind is MSC direct, but McMaster Carr and any other machine tooling supplier should have them as well. You can get very precision (USA) to less expensive off shore made ones. The price tells the story. But, for practical visual use with scoring a target, you will not notice the difference.

Locally, we shoot benchrest at 25 yards/meters and at 75 yards. At 75 yards we have been using the 10 meter pistol target as it is quite available and fairly similar in scoring to the EBR target (it was what was used in the first matches). Though, (Robert, are you paying attention) it would be nice if AoA were to print the official target in single bulls with their logo in the corner, like the NRA does, and sell packs of 100 (or more) in their store and website. Our club in Idaho would certainly buy a few packs. It should be less expensive to have small targets printed rather than the full size 25 bull target used in the matches. Also clubs would find it much easier to post up several bulls on their usual target stands than to have large frames made to hold these rather obscenely large targets. They are fun to show off as definitive proof "I was there", however. As such, I would not want the EBR to change the size of their official match target.

For local matches (unless your shooters are very good) you can generally get away with five shots per bull and still score effectively. Even if they are very good (often makes it easier to score) five shots is do-able though you might have to guess some by putting another target in back of the shot one to see where the scoring rings are. At our club we use the rule: If you can't tell, the higher score goes to the shooter.