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    T3PRanch
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    I just got an excited phone call from Willie who had just got off the phone with Alan Cain (Texas Parks and Wildlife Whitetail Deer Team Leader)

    Texas is taking public comments on proposed rule changes here: https://tpwd.texas.gov/business/feedback/public_comment/proposals/201803_statewide_whitetailed_deer.phtml

    Go make your comments now and in as great a number as possible.

    Proposal:
    Staff propose to allow the take of alligators, game animals, non-migratory game birds and furbearers with air guns and air bows. The proposal also specifies that the

    Take of alligators, deer, pronghorn, big horn sheep, javelina, and turkey will be restricted to air guns .30 caliber or larger.
    Alligators in non-core counties may be taken with air bows or air guns
    In all counties alligators caught on a taking device may be dispatched with air guns
    Air guns propelling a .177 caliber projectile or larger may be used to take squirrel, quail, pheasants, and chachalaca
    Background:
    Staff received a petition for rule making where the petitioner requested that air bows and air rifles be made legal for the take of native big game in Texas. Current TPWD regulations prohibit the take of big game because air bows and air guns are not defined as legal firearms or archery equipment in TPWD regulations, the Texas penal code, or under federal firearms regulations. Upon investigation of air guns and air bows for the take of big game animals TPWD staff found that 7 states allow the use of air bows to harvest big game and 8 states allow the use of air rifles to harvest big game. All states restricted use of air guns and air bows to firearm seasons and some states had minimum standards for caliber and muzzle velocity and specifications requiring an external charging mechanism (air tank, pump, etc.). Air guns have comparable ballistics to other legal firearm that may be used to take native big game in Texas. Air guns have been used successfully to harvest white-tailed deer in states where air rifles are allowed for the take of big game and are currently legal to harvest exotic big game animals in Texas. Staff do not believe there is any biological reasons to not allow the use of air guns and air bows for the take of game animals, non-migratory game birds, and furbearers.

    Lets make this happen.

    Thanks to Willie who followed up on this with Alan and Special thanks to Eric Henderson of Adventures Afield who accompanied Alan on the special research harvest plus loaning him a 308 Texan to use for the research and to Crosman Corporation who did a demonstration for TPWD personnel.

    Thurmond

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    Willie14228
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    Thanks Thurmond
    Alan ask that we as Texas Air Gunners vote/ remark and post our thoughts on this topic using the above link and I will forward this link to his email so that he can view it also.
    He feels that there shouldn’t be an issue getting it passed, but positive feedback from you will help insure that it passes.
    We also discussed the hunting tax that is placed on bows and guns and he said that is also being discussed, internally and with the manufactures, Now I know that can be a touchy subject but understand unlike many of the taxes that are charged for products this is one of the few that actually is put to very good use. 100% goes to the Texas wildlife conservation and Parks. The few extra dollars for that good cause is worth it.
    Note that this opens hunting up for almost all game animals and fur bearing animals and game birds 

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    Tazhunter0
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    Thank you!!!

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    Brian.in.MI
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    Finally! Lived in Austin for 5 years and the only squirrel I killed was with my pickup truck. TX deer are small.. zero reason for them to disallow airguns if MI allows them (.35 and up) This is long overdue.

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    Bullfrog
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    Great to hear! Seems like the airgun hunting dominoes are falling all over. 

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    T3PRanch
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    I just received an e-mail from Stephen Archer of Hard Air Magazine and Archer Airguns. He will be covering this development in Hard Air Magazine! :)

    Thurmond

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    Jovan
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    Interesting I might be moving to Texas soon. 

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    Willie14228
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    Being able to hunt dove other game birds is going to be fun… 
    Hey Steve and Mike this means by the end of the year you can do one of your hunting shows right here in Texas and not for pest but for game 

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    T3PRanch
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    “Willie14228”Being able to hunt dove other game birds is going to be fun… 
    Hey Steve and Mike this means by the end of the year you can do one of your hunting shows right here in Texas and not for pest but for game 

    
Unfortunately mourning dove are considered migratory according to the TPWD Outdoor Annual Hunting and Fishing Regulations so they won’t be legal however as now collard dove are a pest and can be hunted with air guns.

    Thurmond

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    T3PRanch
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    Stephen Archer has put the news in Hard Air Magazine. This should definitely get some exposure.

    http://hardairmagazine.com/news/major-new-proposal-airgun-hunting-texas/

    Thurmond

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    fuznut
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          Special thanks to Willie and Thurmond for the alert.
    Could use all the help we can get, please round up family
    and friends, to submit their opinion because numbers matter.
     

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    BryanH
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    Doves will never get the nod for air rifles.  You can’t hunt them with rifles, either.  Must be taken only on the wing, only with a shotgun.

    I could see it happening with a powerful air shotgun, .410 bore or larger.  Something like the Air Venturi Wing Shot.

    It is good to see that TPWD is coming around.  

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    T3PRanch
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    A new video by TPWD is up on YouTube.  The Airgun section of the presentation is after the 2:50 minute mark to about the 8:01 minute mark.

    Thurmond

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    Willie14228
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    Cool 

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    Widget23
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    I submitted my responses to them.  This is good news.

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    Tazhunter0
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    Has anything else been heard on getting airguns allowed in Texas?

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    T3PRanch
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    The comment period closes at midnight March 22, 2018. Probably will be decided shortly thereafter. If there are not a lot of negative comments then it should pass with flying colors since the TPWD is FOR the proposal.

    Thurmond

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    Tazhunter0
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    “T3PRanch”The comment period closes at midnight March 22, 2018. Probably will be decided shortly thereafter. If there are not a lot of negative comments then it should pass with flying colors since the TPWD is FOR the proposal.
    Thurmond

    
Thanks.  I was wondering what was going on with it.

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    T3PRanch
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    Rumor is that the proposal was passed but no official announcement can yet be located.

    https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/texas-parks-wildlife-passes-airgun-and-airbow-rules/#post-280244

    Edit:  Eric Henderson of Adventures Afield confirmed that the proposal was passed. Waiting on the official TPWD announcement still.

    Thurmond

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    T3PRanch
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    Its official: Texas Parks and Wildlife Commission Approves Hunting Regulation Changes for 2018-19
    https://tpwd.texas.gov/newsmedia/releases/?req=20180405b :) :) :)

    • Approve the use of air guns and air bows to take certain game animals, game birds, alligators, and furbearers. Air guns .30 caliber or larger may only be used to take alligators, deer, pronghorn, big horn sheep, javelina, turkey, and furbearers. Air guns .177 caliber or larger may be used to take squirrel, quail, pheasants, and chachalaca.

    Thurmond

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