Hawke Sidewinder First Focal Plane 6-24 x 56… Nice!!!

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    nomojo65
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    Received mine from DVOR.about 1 wk ago!, love the scope!, just wish the FFP reticle was thinner, I also have 2- Athlon Argos FFP scopes 1-6-24 & 1-8-34, like the reticle’s better on them pretty thin for a FFP SCOPE! Keeping only one of the Athlon’s REALLY want a Nikko Stirling 10x50x60 HD! if I can find one… or a Sightron of same specs.

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    nomojo65

    Received mine from DVOR.about 1 wk ago!, love the scope!, just wish the FFP reticle was thinner, I also have 2- Athlon Argos FFP scopes 1-6-24 & 1-8-34, like the reticle’s better on them pretty thin for a FFP SCOPE! Keeping only one of the Athlon’s REALLY want a Nikko Stirling 10x50x60 HD! if I can find one… or a Sightron of same specs.

    Did you get the same deal I did @ $385 for the FFP scope?  Congrats!

    Yeah, I like the information on the Athlon reticle a bit better than on the Hawke (wish it had numbers showing the MIL so I didn't have to count…), but it's good enough to use.  Optics on the Hawke (especially the eye box!) are notably better than the Argos lineup.

    Sean

     

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    Ya!, thanks for your tip!, same deal you got, I agree I think overall the HAWKE is the better scope, just wish it had a thinner Retical! But I can work around that…

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    FukoChan
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    Hahaha I bet it was because I made a phone call to them 2 years ago saying thy should make a high end ffp scope and that they would make loads of $$. Nah probably just a coincidence or someone else also asked? 

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    Have owned the SFP version and finally let it go because of the sever color bleeding problem. Under bright sun light, everything with high contrast is surrounded by a fat rainbow. In dimmer conditions, the color is not that prominent but the image is not as sharp as it can be. I shoot targets only so all the images I have been looking at are black lines on white papers. Because of the high contrast, the problem always shows up at its worst.  The only way to alleviate the bleeding is to reduce the magnification.  My Falcon 10-50× 60 does not have the same problem despite of it's much higher magnification.   Having said that, I am very pleased with my Hawke SW 4-16X 50 which will likely stick to my AA Prosport forever. 

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    Have owned the SFP version and finally let it go because of the sever color bleeding problem. Under bright sun light, everything with high contrast is surrounded by a fat rainbow. In dimmer conditions, the color is not that prominent but the image is not as sharp as it can be. I shoot targets only so all the images I have been looking at are black lines on white papers. Because of the high contrast, the problem always shows up at its worst.  The only way to alleviate the bleeding is to reduce the magnification.  My Falcon 10-50× 60 does not have the same problem despite of it's much higher magnification.   Having said that, I am very pleased with my Hawke SW 4-16X 50 which will likely stick to my AA Prosport forever. 

    Umm, with all due respect-unless there's some documented proof that the optical designs are identical-the FFP version is a totally different optical design so I don't honestly think the experiences with a different scope are really applicable to the FFP version being discussed?  Just so others who are reading this thread aren't confused, the comments above do NOT apply to the Hawke 6-24 x 56mm FFP scope that this thread is about.

    Now, if the posted had this experience directly with the FFP version, then the comments would be relevant.  However, the the FFP version has to use a different optical design due to the placement of the reticle within the optical path, at a minimum.

     

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    … the the FFP version has to use a different optical design due to the placement of the reticle within the optical path, at a minimum.

     

     

    Thanks for your explanation but I believe members of this forum is intelligent enough to see that my experience is about the SFP version and that FFP has a different optical design so there should not be any confusion.  Color bleeding ( or chromatic aberration just to be more technical ) is not just about optical design but also the quality of glass. I am just curious whether the FFP version has the same problem under high magnification. Sorry that I should have made myself more clear. 

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    Thanks for the follow up clarification-that makes more sense now.  I am very familiar with CA from photography and my reviews of the Hawke vs Athlon scopes.  Did you happen to have a chance to read my full comparison of the new FFP vs the Hawke Airmax and Athlon Argos scopes-I speak to the CA performance in that review?  In short, the FFP Hawke does very well with CA control-especially compared to the Athlon (which is pretty bad, imho). 

    I didn’t gave a direct comparison between the Sidewinder 30’s in both FFP and SFP, though I ised to own a SFP (SR Pro reticle, 8-32) scope.  That had different optics though and a different zoom range.

    Which particular Hawke SFP mode did you sell due to the CA problems?

     

     

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    Got the Hawke 6-24×56 in. Mounted on the RAW. Ordered an Athlon HELOS 6-24×50 for my BSA R10 and the damn thing is not what the seller stated, NEW. The box was open, no instructions, the caps were on, and there were scuff marks on the bell. It goes to UPS today. I think I will order another Hawke, or, an Athlon Midas Tac.

    Anyone have both?

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    Got the Hawke 6-24×56 in. Mounted on the RAW. Ordered an Athlon HELOS 6-24×50 for my BSA R10 and the damn thing is not what the seller stated, NEW. The box was open, no instructions, the caps were on, and there were scuff marks on the bell. It goes to UPS today. I think I will order another Hawke, or, an Athlon Midas Tac.

    Anyone have both?

    No-only had them both at the same time briefly (the Hawke FFP and Athlon Argos models-so not the same).  I am very curious about the new Midas TAC model though-that would be very nice as well!  I wish it came in an 8-34 version though…

     

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    For anyone interested: the new Hawke Sidewinder FFP 6-24 x 56 scope is back on DVOR.com for $375!  Also, the Hawke Sidewinder ED (TMX) 10-50 x 60 is also listed for $619 at the moment!  These deals won't last more than a few days…

     

    Sean

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