Hawke 10X50X60

Checking out YouTube videos, and the only ones showing it's accrual usage were Russian? or somewhere in that region. They appeared to be showing an in focus at 50 yds and 10X. Then when they were zoomed in it appears to be out of focus and ineffective ranging system. I am an absolute fan of Hawke, the 6.5X20x42 is on 3 of my guns;. A intro video started part by the guy just the facts not the fluff. No part 2 as of yet I'm concerned as the 8.5X25 and the 8X32 seem to be quite dark at their extreme ranges. Any other info available?
 
I hate to be "that guy".... but I can't help myself...

Scope values are labeled as 6.5 - 20 X 42. The dash is important. It indicates that the scope can zoom from a range of 6.5 TO 20 times magnification. The third number indicated the size of the lense. 42mm.

If you type 6.5x20x42 it makes me think you are describing dimensions of a cardboard box.

I know this is trivial, but I just had to say something. If you hate me for it, I understand. LOL
 
"jfrazier30"I hate to be "that guy".... but I can't help myself...

Scope values are labeled as 6.5 - 20 X 42. The dash is important. It indicates that the scope can zoom from a range of 6.5 TO 20 times magnification. The third number indicated the size of the lense. 42mm.

If you type 6.5x20x42 it makes me think you are describing dimensions of a cardboard box.

I know this is trivial, but I just had to say something. If you hate me for it, I understand. LOL
Scope nazi ! (I kid I kid )
 
Might want to define the type of hunting you want to do with this beast. It's minimum 10X magnification seems to mean, it's a bench scope. Field of view is pretty narrow at lowest magnification.

And, being a cheapskate, how much scope do you really need for whatever purpose? After all, it is $900, it ain't cheap.

​You guys that own the scope, how does it perform at dusk? Most glass these days is pretty clear (even the cheaper scopes), so how does it compare against other scopes you own? How is the evening light transmission ability? That huge objective lens is approaching small spotting scope on your rifle. At nearly 35 ounces, how's the weight effect your hunting, or do you setup and use sticks or other supports?

​What guns are you using it on? etc. etc. etc. Details please, what makes it worth the $$ and does it really work on into the evening?

 
I use it on my FX impact with a long bipod I can take sitting shots. I mostly handle woodchucks along the edge of fields. I used to do it with a .22mag but I have been enjoying the added challenge of my air rifle. I am a two eyed shooter and targeting hasnt been a problem for where I hunt usually put it on 20X and go. Its not an issue and it is easier ranging with my scope. A skill I am working hard to get used to. I would like to get to the point I dont need a range finder but I am not there yet. I wouldnt do any short range hunting in the woods with it but for me 30 yards and beyond are the most likely scenario and its amazing at letting me put pellets right where I want them. I started out with a Frontier 2.5-15 but have havent even thought about goin back since I picked up the ED 10-50. It maybe overkill but I have yet to find an answer to the question of "why not?" that would carry enough weight to change my mind. I hunt with an airgun I dont shoot things on the run so there are not as many reasons to have snap target acquisition and super wide field of view. Maybe if i start bird hunting but as it is now patience tends to win out.
 
at 18 inches and north of 2 lbs.it would find it's way to a high powered Cricket with a sit and wait, or target shooting. I can't make out holes at 20X at 100 yds with my eye/scope combo. I compiled a list with critters approx. head - body size, a 5" sidewheel that was precisely ranged and marked i'm getting confident at ranging. I would expect this scope to excel over the 6.5 - 20 It might find it's way on to a model12 savage also.
 
"Saltlake58"Might want to define the type of hunting you want to do with this beast. It's minimum 10X magnification seems to mean, it's a bench scope. Field of view is pretty narrow at lowest magnification.

And, being a cheapskate, how much scope do you really need for whatever purpose? After all, it is $900, it ain't cheap.

​You guys that own the scope, how does it perform at dusk? Most glass these days is pretty clear (even the cheaper scopes), so how does it compare against other scopes you own? How is the evening light transmission ability? That huge objective lens is approaching small spotting scope on your rifle. At nearly 35 ounces, how's the weight effect your hunting, or do you setup and use sticks or other supports?

​What guns are you using it on? etc. etc. etc. Details please, what makes it worth the $$ and does it really work on into the evening?

That's right. You need a 4x minimum or maybe 6x at the most for a hunting scope. Don't get me wrong, it's nice to have a higher power setting to zoom in for small game when they are sitting still (which isn't that often) but you need the option of zooming out and keeping them on your optic as they move. 

Dealing with a 10x minimum on a hunting scope would be a horrible compromise. I could just about put up with a 6-24 but I wouldn't consider it ideal. At 10x you have to adjust the parallax every time the distances changes... the game will be gone by the time you are done messing around. A 10-50 is a target scope and not an air gun target scope. 

The big question for me with this scope at $900 (or any Hawk scope) is if it is really the best scope for the money. I don't know this particular model but for the Hawk scopes I have owned (I used to only buy Hawk until I learned better) there has usually been some better options for the same cash. 

As you can probably tell, I'm not exactly a Hawke fan. I've been burnt by them one too many times. 

$900 gives you a number of options, especially for a hunting scope. You have the SWFA 3-15x42 FFP Mil Quad side focus for $700, the Weaver Tactical 4-20x50 FFP Mil Dot or enhanced mil dot for $750-$850 as examples. Then you have the top Sightrons. Plus, if you accept a 50 yard minimum, you can look at Burris, Zeiss, Nikon and Leupold which have some very nice options in that price range. We are talking serious glass.

There is zero value to 50x power on a hunting air rifle scope. There is nothing anyone could say to convince me otherwise on that. I can clearly see any game as PCP rifle distances at 15x or less. I pop sparrows at 75 - 100 yards easily at 10x or less.