has anyone ever dealt with botach?

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jwrabbit123

jwrabbit123

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HI I al always looking for things to buy and I had decided on a few red dots , So I been checking prices and I found a good deal on a very good unit called

EOtech exps2 and it said 18 in stock , so I ordered one last week and , I checked emails no tracking number , so I called and after 8 calls I got someone who said ohh , you just ordered it I said no last week they said name I said yes I see invoice , I said ok do you have tracking , NO it is not in stock here but at other warehouse , I said no it showed in stock she said well , It will be dropped shipped from eotech but no ETA , I said ??? I said I dont want to order something and you dont have it , I said cancel it , I will check back later on if it was reversed in credit card , when I did search on company it appears they have done this many times and take money and dont ship , id this legit site or a rip off ???? 
 
So there are two things worth mentioning here. 

The first is Botach. They have a pretty poor reputation in the tactical community for various problems, in some cases selling things they don't have, poor customer service, and so forth. In general, it is advisable to avoid them. Because my word isn't worth anything, my recommendation would be simply to look at their BBB profile:
https://www.bbb.org/us/nv/las-vegas/profile/gun-dealers/botach-inc-1086-90045567

My personal recommendation is that you tell them to immediately refund your order. It takes several days for refunds to appear on your credit card, so do be patient and give them some time, however if the still don't refund there are strong consumer protections for CC purchases so you can simply file a chargeback. 

Regarding Eotech, they also have a less than wonderful reputation. They have suffered from a long string of design flaws, shoddy engineering, cover-ups, etc. There was a MASSIVE brouhaha a while back when it was revealed their optics had major thermal POI shifts. There was the battery recoil issue. There are the durability issues. The list just goes on and on. Anyway point is I'd advise against buying them. I know some guys love their Eotechs and swear by them, and I'm sure I'll catch some fire for speaking out against them, but again they're poorly regarded for good reason. 

Obviously that leaves the question of which optic to get. Without knowing your exact requirements it is hard to say, but in general people tend to have great experiences with Vortex, Aimpoint, and Trijicon. 

I hope that helps, and remember this advice is worth what you paid for it, I'm just some nutcase on the internet. ;) :) 
 
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