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That's too bad to hear brother... I think with FX, unless its an Impact, no one wants it. Probably because you look at all the big events (like RMAC) and there are Impacts everywhere, a veritable sea of Impacts. All of them either MK2 or STX Power tuned, shooting .30 caliber (and a couple .25), and then maybe a few Crowns, but Impacts rule the day, and all the FX Fanboys want an Impact. And the tournament results reflect it. I saw a couple of guys shooting Wildcats in the Speed and Precision Marksman events, but even then, mostly Impacts. My .22 Cricket and Derrick's .25 Vulcan were one of a kind. I didn't shoot well, but Derrick (@zx10wall) shot lights out in the Speed Challenge Pro and came in fourth, right behind Gerhard (the tall one) of Air Hunters South Africa.

So to answer your question, yes, I do think its bad timing. Add to that the $300 additional when new for the Laminate stock, and no one wants to shell out that when they can get a used synthetic one for under $1K. I wouldn't sell if with the Sidewinder, that's more of a Benchrest scope, way too big for a little gun like the Wildcat... Sell the scope separately, most guys either already have one, or have a specific scope in mind...

The issue is the industry has so many manufacturers and they are all coming out with new products very quickly. Everybody seriously into AG wants to dump their old to finance the new cool stuff. So yes the market is flooded on the new end which is trickling to flooded used. So unless you have some old rare classic be prepared for penny's on the dollar. And note that there are kind of two demographics. The old timers who appreciate the classics but they are dwindling in numbers and looking to downsize due to age. The other demographics are new entrants and powder burner converts who want new and high power. This is why all the new hot AGs are variants of ARs/blackguns. They don't want your classics, springers or yesteryear PCPs when they can get a lights out modular AR style platform for $1000.

Just my 2 cents.

well my opinion is if you sell anything in a place that the buyers are smart and knowledgeable you will have a hard

as a seller you what a fair price for your item, as a buyer we what to steal it, if it isn't rare and is hardly ever seen that might be different

so where to sell then Gun Broker has a very large air gun section and Ebay, the prices that air gun stuff is selling for is absurdly high or just top dollar but it is selling and you can set a buy now or reserve but I bet you knew that

but the educated buyer is just that

I also think an auction has it's benefits, the buyer can chew on that item for a week try to make up your mind, where as this sort of site like the old Yellow you had to act now and that put pressure on a buyer to act fast and now and sometimes buyers just don't buy big buck items in that environment 

just my look at it and there would be many opinions

I tend to list at whatever I see stuff going for but often get offers for less. Sometimes I'll sell, sometimes not. In my case, the stuff I'll be listing is more common than it used to be. (Specific function / configuration). So many ask folks why would I buy yours, for $$XX when y (say a gauntlet) is so much less than your used whatever... 

I think (and it's as true here as anywhere else) that folks see reviews that talk up a $300 gun without really talking about why its a $300 gun. I'll stay out of whether a $1000 gun is better or not but the my point is that is becomes subjective and folks will focus on what's presented. Reviews - Price - Looks.... 

Think about it a different way, when the old yellow faded away, what happened to the QB and Crosman builders/customizers, I don't see them anymore...Way smaller market....

Not really the same thing but.....

I have a lot of stuff to sell, we'll see what happens.

I would LOVE that laminated Wildcat but I can’t part $2000 wether it’s a good deal or full retail for new. It seems that the prices keep climbing new and used. Plus it’s top end equipment and many aren’t able to afford it. It seems that there are a lot of ads for the higher $$$ guns so maybe the market is flooded? I’m far from an expert, just sharing my thoughts .

Buy proven guns used if you expect to sell later. Another option is to go full custom target gun as it will retain value. I haven't had any trouble selling an AA S200 and Anschutz 8001 HP within a couple weeks of posting while recouping all funds. I suppose if you buy right and know the crowd you're selling to your loss should be small if at all.

Whenever I see something at fair price, I don’t even counter offer, I just pay the asking price. Something I want, of course. 

Now, I have seen quite the opposite too. Guy selling pellets, for example, more than 4 tins, asking for more than PA, would, actually enough to get free shipping from PA, still wants buyer to pay shipping. Scratching head...

But, I digress. 

I think you are better off selling without the options. I would also remove any aftermarket add ones like A regulator and sell it separately. For example I have a Hatsan Gladius long 22 caliber sells for about $900 New I also have regulator $100 3 extra mags about $20 each and a spare air tube $150 this comes to a new cost of $1210 I probably would get no more than $600 for it as a package. Selling separately $550 for rifle $30 for the mags $50 for regulator $75 for air tube total $705. Hopefully one person would buy it all to keep the shipping down but I’m just putting this up to say I think you are better off selling just the base item and sell any options as add ons.

My two vices over the years have been cars, and firearms/air guns. I've bought and sold many, and I will offer only this, it's a hobby, and every dollar you spend should be money you can afford to lose. Obviously, there is value in a used car or air rifle, but that value can change significantly based on variables beyond your control. I've sold a few firearms for more than I paid, and a few air rifles for near what I paid, but I've sold more of both for considerably less. Hard to sell, easy to sell, the market is fickle. If it bothers you greatly, or places you in any financial distress, maybe it's time to reconsider things. 

your prices are fair... Unless you need the money stick to your guns no pun intended. it will sell eventually.

The timing is wrong. High School Graduation just happened and now summer vacations are starting. Money is allocated to other pursuits at this time of year IMHO!

Last month was a good time to sell a car.

This month is a good time to sell a time share!

Yes, a flooded market. A combination of fickle air gunners trying one after another of the flood of new models, variations and generations, in an endless quest to find the Holy Grail "best"! And since not many folks can afford to accumulate dozens of $2000-3000 airguns, they have to go somewhere. Makes for a depressed seller's market.

@crusher, I saw your ad, and it a beautiful gun, at a very fair price. It could simply be that many can’t afford to spend the loot? The manufacturers have normalized prices north of 1K, and for many of us that’s a lot of coin. It’s the main reason for me “pumping the brakes” on my next PCP purchase. I will save and wait to buy by next gun here in the classifieds. 

Yes, a flooded market. A combination of fickle air gunners trying one after another of the flood of new models, variations and generations, in an endless quest to find the Holy Grail "best"! And since not many folks can afford to accumulate dozens of $2000-3000 airguns, they have to go somewhere. Makes for a depressed seller's market.

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This makes a whole lot of sense right here. Lots of folk want to get the latest & greatest, I have been guilty of this myself. 

Yes the market is flooded. Soon, it will catch up with the new guns too. There has to be somewhere for these existing guns to go. How many of us would buy a new car if the dealer would not take our trade-in? I could not sell my .25 Verminator Extreme MK II (entire kit including 2 scopes), for $1500, having paid $2,400. I think AoA's divorce from FX and dumping their inventory, though not super cheap (they still want $2,200 for my gun) does not help. Do you think it would be easier to sell if I split it up? I have seen WTB ads for the FX scope for the pellet barrel.

As a potential buyer on the classifieds I pass on anything above .22 caliber. Don’t need the power and want to shoot inexpensively.

If I had $2000 to spend, it wouldn’t be on a package deal on a used gun. I’d be getting a brand new Impact MKii. I think a lot of other people probably thinking the same thing. 



Better off selling everything individually. I have a Gen 2 Crown. Huma Regged and upgrading FX gauges. Pepper laminate. I’d be lucky to get $1400 for it. Probably would have to settle for $1200 to get it sold even though I know it’s worth more. Everyone looking for deals, including me! Lol. $2000 isn’t a deal even if it comes with all kinds of goodies. It’s still $2000. 

With new guns like the dreamline or Crown continuam(sp) in the same price range might be the problem.