You guys were right, this thing is built to last and crazy accurate, even for me who has no experience in springers besides my 880 Daisy when I was a kid. I was grouping them usually within an inch from about 20 yards with open sites which I didnt think was too bad for a newbie. I have an old shot up windmill on my place which I stepped off at about 30 yrds away and 40' high but not sure of the actual distance as the crow flies.The fin of it has some shotgun slug holes in it and I thought it would be fun to see if I could make it through them, I would know if I didn't hear the tink of the pellet hitting. I shot about 25-30 round at it and made it though the hole twice. I was surprised how little I had to raise the sights above the hole to compensate for the drop. Thanks to Dairyboy for the gun and you guys for telling be to buy it. One more question is that it came with a Vortex Pro Guide 2 spring kit, Should I put it in right away or wait awhile. What would I gain with the Vortex kit ?