Got my Benjamin Armada - the stock is horrible (pic)

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I underestimated just how bad the non-magpul stock is, and just how much a good stock adds to your gun.

It is the most intimate part of a gun - touching your face, very close to the eye, and I have never given it much thought because I've never had a problematic stock, but this stock is almost as if Crosman attached a giant middle finger to this rifle as if to say "F you for not shelling out for the Magpul edition."

The stock is plastic, and absolutely flat. It feels exactly like I have this level pressed against my shoulder. I took this picture to show it is as flat and wide as a level. No contours or curves, at all.

It also wobbles, a lot, and all the little bumps and knocks transfer directly into my face, again like having a level on your face while someone thumps it.

I don't get it. MY cheapo Gamo has a much better stock. Even my childhood BB gun, and my son's BENJAMIN Red Rider has a better stock.

A company like Crosman / Benjamin ought to know better than to do this. I would sooner have my son's Red Rider stock on it.

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Crosman sells a Synthetic stock for $35.00 (plus shipping even on Friday). It's not bad for the price. I know the Armada costs a lot but this is an entry level rifle. Others on this forum have placed a Boyd stock or a Custom Corcoran stock on. Or you can do what I did and make your own. I made these out of Cherry wood.
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"NMshooter"Crosman sells a Synthetic stock for $35.00 (plus shipping even on Friday). It's not bad for the price. I know the Armada costs a lot but this is an entry level rifle. Others on this forum have placed a Boyd stock or a Custom Corcoran stock on. Or you can do what I did and make your own. I made these out of Cherry wood.
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That's some fine craftsmanship Doc. I'll take that over a stock Marauder any day!

Fuss
 
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Thats how allot of the AR stocks fit. All the collapsible AR stocks wobble on the buffer tube if they dont have a clamping lock like some magpul models. Most have very flat butt stock you have to remember they were not designed as a precision shooting stock but a combat stock that gets used with body armor. Just buy the magpul collapsible stock or the magpul prs stock designed for precision shooting. 
 
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So you bought a prius and thought it would perform like a Ferrari? It accepts all the bolt on AR platform accessories. If you aren't into ARs it will never be the gun for you. My buddy loved his until he went with a Wolverine HP. Now he won't even pick up the Armada. Gun will shoot that's for sure but until you feel the acceleration of that Ferrari your Prius will be your hot rod. 
 
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Regarding sending it back, everything about the rifle is what I want, so sending it back isnt really solving anything - the stock is the problem, not the rifle.

As with anything else in life, my mustang gt is no ferrari, but it’s fast enough for the money. Im not interested in a ferrari - thats why i have my mustang. Same goes for rifles.

And my point is, my son’s $70ish (i forget what i paid) Red Rider has a more confortable stock, as do all my old daisy air rifles from the 80s, as does my Gamo Silent Cat.

Granted, this is my first foray into the world of AR / tactical hardware, so perhaps it was an unexpected fact of life. I’m just saying, though, of all the stocks a company could choose, this one is terrible. at least include a rubber pad and / locking clamp to hold it steady.

Idk, like I said, the AR world may be different from the hunting world, it was far more wobbly and uncomfortable than I could have guessed - its like having my face and shoulder on a hard plastic level.
 
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Welcome to the world of AR. In general your standard rifle form is going to feel alot more comfortable than an AR style gun. Unless you go and spend the big bucks and get the expensive butt stocks handguards etc. Just a simple fact like others have said most collapsible butt stocks have play in them and are flat. They weren't designed for comfort. If you really want one the Mrod would have been a better fit for you it seems like.

Simply added a rubber butt pad to my WARP and made a huge difference in feel and a cheek riser also so looks similar to what you have.
 
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If you want to keep the ar furniture then just buy the options I listed. The prs stock has adjustable length of pull, adjustable cheek riser and you can even put an adjustable mono pod on the stock for complete bench adjustability. They put the standard collapsible stock on the armada because of cost and also knowing people who want ar furniture will know what to expect at least most of the time. So its really a simple fix if you buy an AR stock designed for use on a SAPR. 
 
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Actually I LIKE the Armada stock. Not every gun can have a custom stock feel to it. For about $2K a gun is available with a top quality stock from Daystate.
The Armada is what it is. It is an entry level air gun with a tactical "look"! I have many different air guns and guns. Each has a different "feel" but I can shoot with them all because I do not concern myself with trivialities of each gun. I learned to shoot with a 30-40 Krag which has a metal butt plate as do many military rifles I own. Developing the ability to use what is presented and shooting well is what is important to me rather than an endless cycle of spending $$$ to make minor improvements. ;)

The above is my Opinion only and may or may not be shared by others. YMMV! :)

Thurmond
 
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"T3PRanch"Actually I LIKE the Armada stock. Not every gun can have a custom stock feel to it. For about $2K a gun is available with a top quality stock from Daystate.
The Armada is what it is. It is an entry level air gun with a tactical "look"! I have many different air guns and guns. Each has a different "feel" but I can shoot with them all because I do not concern myself with trivialities of each gun. I learned to shoot with a 30-40 Krag which has a metal butt plate as do many military rifles I own. Developing the ability to use what is presented and shooting well is what is important to me rather than an endless cycle of spending $$$ to make minor improvements. ;)

The above is my Opinion only and may or may not be shared by others. YMMV! :)

Thurmond
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Thurmond,
Although I totally agree with you, some of us (in regards to the Marauder), just want to see how much more can be done to improve it. I really appreciate Daystate and FX innovation of creat amazing rifles. I Also truly appreciate all the inovation people have done to improve the Marauder. After I got my .22 Marauder shooting as good as I could, I couldn't leave the stock alone, so I made my own. Many have followed suit by placing a Boyd or Corcoran stock. I purchased 2 beat up old Falcon Cabines to be regulators and tuned to max the potential out of them. I also found new stocks for them. They are 12-14 FPE rifles but I wanted them to be the best I could make them. Yes, I could of purchased a more complete rifle but it was the challenge of making it better. I will be starting 2 new projects in aquiring 2 Falcon FN19's in .177 and ,22 multi-shot. In the end I will probalby spend as much as a Daystate but I look at it as a project and not "rabbit hole".
The reason I am chiming my opinion in, is that the Marauder (Armada) is a great entry level rifle. You can certainly leave it alone and adapt to it or you can do what many people on this forum have done and to keep tweaking the rifle. I have done two Marauder projects which I have really enjoyed doing. I have done many but not all the modifications. With the cherry stocks, I have made them a "one of a kind" (well 2 ) rifle. In 2016, I placed 22nd out of 75 shooters in the 25 meter EBR competition with my .22 Marauder beating many high priced rifles. Three weeks ago I just shot my best 10 shot group of .176 inches at 50 yards. I say this not to brag but to prove the point that with time and effort, these Marauders can be amazing rifles themselves (with magazine under $20- I have spares). A Guy doesn't always have to trade up to get a good rifle. The individual will have to decide what and why he is doing these mods instead of trading up. 
This is an amazing hobby which could take a whole lifetime to learn all the ins and outs from shooting, ballistics, to the workings of the rifle. It appears I can't get enough. If your goal is to focus on just shooting, Thurmond is right, better to get a premium rifle and focus on your shooting skills. If you are like me and want to really understand the workings of the rifle, get a Marauder (Armada) and start a journey.
Doc

Thurmond- I really want a Renegade HP, Bobcat, Verminator Extreme, Cricket mini carbine, Krosa, Impact, and a Crown but I keep taking on these darn projects. One day I would love to be part of reviving the Falcon line of rifles. My family thinks I am going through a mid-life crisis! LOL

Jonny- sorry if I highjacked your thread, just passionate about these rifles
 
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