Got 60FPE out of my Royale!

Great shooting Glem. I've done it before with my 500 too, great guns. This time of year is really tough. Normally there's one front after another blowing in stirring up the wind, days are too short as well. Come on summer time.
Jimmy

Now everyone is going to want to run out and buy a Royale 500!

these are the specs of hammer weight of my Royal 500

"Glem.Chally"

"mubhaur"

these are the specs of hammer weight of my Royal 500

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@ Mubhaur - Samsung S8? If so I have the same, anyways does it look identical to my stuff? Keep in mind the top picture the numbers are off, looks to be around 37mm long. Should be some visual differences that can be noticed if it is. I thought you said adding weight to the hammer didn't help? It didn't really for me and I didn't like the sound it made even with the HST adjusted very light. How about the amount I can adjust the HST or the size of the TP on the barrel? Yours started life as non-regulated so maybe there's some other minor difference we're missing. (as far as I can remember)
@Jimmy - Thanks and yeah it is a lovely platform, I couldn't be happier with it about 6000 pellets through it and the only o-ring I've replaced is the regulator one with having it in and out so many times. 
@Chuck - Yeah! The more the merrier, the prices are coming down for them now too. I got mine for 1450US with the case up here in Canada literally a day or two after the prices came down and made the laminate with case cheaper than the walnut without one.

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I got the same parts that used in factory regulated royale 500 from fx Sweden.
These include bigger valve, valve seat, bigger transfer port.
I will measure the TP hole.
it appears that there are some more difference between yours and mine.
that has to be digged out.

Hang in there mubhauer... by the time you're finished you're going to know everything there is to know about tuning that Royal 500 to absolute perfection. But she is going to make you pay dearly for the privilege of giving up her secrets. But I believe it's going to be the beginning of a long love affair between you and that Royal of yours!

"CHUCK"Hang in there mubhauer... by the time you're finished you're going to know everything there is to know about tuning that Royal 500 to absolute perfection. But she is going to make you pay dearly for the privilege of giving up her secrets. But I believe it's going to be the beginning of a long love affair between you and that Royal of yours!

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with these specs of parts the maximum I cancan get is 950fps using 25 grain jsb in my Royale 500.

To me the only difference is that the hammer weight / guide of HIS gun is shorter than mine. This short length may allow him to compress the hammer spring a bit more. A bit more HST. 

As I was reading this thread and looking at the photos I thought I should share with you my experience with chrony measurements etc.
I own a M1 Shooting Chrony for 3-4 years. A while ago I realized that my air guns had many ups and downs regarding velocity. The guns were not inconsistent but once I measured for example my CZ 200 consistent at 12 foot-pounds and the next weekend I got consistent 14 foot-pounds of energy. I started not to trust the measurements I was getting. I knew (many say so) that chrony measurements are affected by light conditions but how much? So I bought myself a second chronograph. This one is An Air Chrony MK3 and measures velocities regardless of light conditions. Now which one to trust? I had to make a comparison…
So I went back to my basement and put them side by side (the correct is in line) for testing. Conditions the same for both. Distance between them 20 cm. Air Chrony MK3 in front, M1 Shooting Chrony behind. Gun for the test CZ 200 S regulated approx. 14 foot-pounds.
Now the results...

Shooting chrony without any cover


Shooting chrony with cover

First test without any cover. The chronies exposed directly to light (not fluorescent)
I took 5 shots at about 875 fps (Air Chrony MK3). The average velocity measured by the Shooting Chrony was 47 fps higher, with the max difference climbing at 55 fps and the lowest at 37 fps. That’s a lot…

Second test with Shooting Chrony M1 covered with a plastic sheet and some white paper. It’s easier than using the shields and has the same results.
5 shots again, same velocity for Air Chrony MK3. The average velocity measured by the Shooting Chrony was 1,5 fps lower, with the max difference being 3 fps and the lowest 0,7 fps. That seems o.k.

My conclusion: A Shooting Crony should be in a shadow to produce reliable results. That again is not a general rule just my opinion from my chrony.
So my advice from my own experience...
Glem, use the shields when you measure velocities with the Shooting Chrony just to compare the results you are getting.
Umair, your rifle shoots 25 grain JSB pellets at 950 fps. It should shoot the Heavies at around 850 fps (mine shoots the heavies approx. 100 fps slower than the 25 grain) That’s approx. 55 foot-pounds. You are reaching the upper limit. “Weatherby”, who is the most experienced from us all, wrote: “I’ve modified quite a few and in general, around 56 FPE was the average obtained power.” So again, I think you are o.k. There aren’t many fps hidden, maybe just a few. Tune your rifle for accuracy and shot count and enjoy it. It’s a wonderful air gun. Mine is an ELITE 400 barreled to .25 and shoots the heavies at 790 fps. It’s one hole at 60 meters. Only modifications are a Huma regulator at 150 bar, transfer port drilled from 4,5 to 5 mm and valve seat opened with fine sand paper at aproxx. 4.5 mm. Hammer spring adjuster all the way out.
But again, that’s my opinion.
Sorry for the long post.

Glad your chrony works fine Glem. Now we have to continue the search for more fps (not all of us of course)
About the shroud. I have removed it and I’m using a Weihrauch silencer. Although it feels that you hit the target harder and faster and there is a POI shift when not using the silencer, the velocity remains the same. I remember measuring it once.
Another thing that came to my mind is the hammer spring. I bought three of them by mistake when I ordered some spare parts from FX a while ago. All three had the same looks and length but one of then felt a little harder when finger pressed. This is the one I’m using and probably that’s why the “all the way out” for the hammer spring adjuster. I never had so little spring preload before. But for my gun without a bigger valve, increasing hammer spring preload just wastes lots of air while velocity gain is relatively small.
Of course I don’t recommend buying and testing all available FX hammer springs but a fresh one never hurt anyone.

Glem what is your shot count at 160bar 60fpe with the MK2s now? 
I am going to bump my reg up on my R500 soon. Need to order the best fitting. 

Hey Glem! Man I liked watching that little video a lot bro! I've been very sick for the last couple weeks, and with work and that I haven't had a chance to do any shooting for over a month! Just hearing the sound of you video got me excited again to go shooting. All that power is nothing without accuracy, and for me one hole accuracy was cool for awhile, but once I achieved that I did the same as you...I went for the accuracy and the power. I have some really heavy duty spinners and I enjoy not just seeing, but hearing that loud Smack! when a 34 grainer flattens itself out like a pancake at 55 or 58 ft lbs is something I just never get tired of. Now I really got house-a-tosis!
Thanks, Chuck

By the way, I read what you guys were doing with you chrono lights and if I am not out of place I would like to tell you about the indoor lights on mine. I have the Caldwell Chronograph - https://www.midwayusa.com/product/628006/caldwell-ballistic-precision-chronograph-premium-kit - and it has infra-red lights that are supposed to give the best readings indoors according to what I have been told. And you used to be able to buy just the light kit on Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/Caldwell-721111-Chronograph-Light-Kit/dp/B00HX46M0I - just thought I would mention it. The kit comes with a 110 volt power cord and a battery pack that takes 4 AA batteries in case you don't have access to power in some situation. Works great for me...and you may like it too!
All the best, Chuck

Oh I love those pictures! Reminds me of the rabbit and crow my buddy gave that were meant for 12 ft lb field target practice...hee hee! I guess you can imagine how badly I beat them to death! hee hee hee! My spinners are much thicker than those you show me...I will take a picture of them next time I go shooting. And that will be soon! I stubbornly waited until today to go the doctor like an idiot waiting and waiting to get better! I got sick with the flu/bronchitis on Jan. 22nd, and my back hurt like a knife in it on top of that...guess I strained it moving my big extension ladders around the big 2 story house on my last paint job. I am used to just picking them up and walking them where I want them to go but now think at 62 my back is telling me to let my younger guys do that part. Anyway, the doc gave me something for the pain and a new regimen of back exercises to start when I get better. The worst part is not being able to go shooting...the weather is perfect right now here...about 84 degrees and bluebird skies...and I got cabin fever bad. Maybe by tomorrow or Friday I will be able to go smash my spinners too! I will take pictures! 
All the best, Chuck

Well, I gotta join this thread since i have a .22 R400 that i bought back in Sweden, transformed to full power and installed a reg set at 140bar. In my case, even with the hammer weight of the r500 (and all the components of the HP kit) just can't get more than 870fps. So if there is any secret i wanna know it!