Getting a Permission and the Legalities Required

Alright, so upfront, I may be overthinking things here, just a bit. However, I've been looking into potential permissions lately and hope to make a few calls this weekend, but I'm still unsure of how to handle damage liability. Would that be on me, or the farmer? If on me, do I need insurance? If yes, what kind, and what would be a monthly cost I could expect from that? If no insurance, but I am still liable for damages, what prevents the farmer from claiming that I damaged something which I did not, and making me pay for something of high value? If I'm not liable, it doesn't seem like a safe bet for the farmer, as he doesn't know me and as of yet, I have no reputation. 

Additionally, how do y'all go about acquiring permissions? Are unannounced house calls wise, or a phone call to the farm and offering to show them your equipment? I've made up some fliers, which I'll be printing in higher quality and hanging in local feed stores after I get a few things straight. 

Thanks in advance for any guidance, and for all the awesome posts on this forum!
Regards



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well I know from experience only..and flopped a few times ,. when you approach a potential permission you gotta have thought of all the queations that will be asked of you and know the right answers .honesty and up front always ,first INSURANCE look at the NRA FOR THAT .IM NOT SURE HOW THEY READ .BUT ITS A GOOD START THEN ON TO BEING ABLE TO TRY TO READ SOME ONE NICE GUY OR NOT,THERE SO MUCH MORE PEOPLE HERE WILL GUIDE YOU HOPE IT HELPPS STAY SAFE PAT
 
You have way too much crap on that poster. No one but us shooters want to see Mr jock shooter and his stuff. Print up a business type card with maybe your facial pic phone number and a short discription of what you do. I used to have card and the last few years just either call first or visit sighr and talk with the manager or owner, only been turned down once in resent year because the owner was poisoning the next day. Assess the situation and BS a few about the business.
 
From the 2 permissions I have been allowed to shoot here is what I ahve discussed with the farmer. Both are relatively open and large. Lots of things that can potentially be damaged i.e equipment, buildings, ANIMALS, and FARM HANDS. My two farmers understand they are asking for me to shoot as many pests as possible but absolutely expects me to use my best judgement when shooting, and they understand they are accepting a certain amount of liability by allowing this. I recommend to pay attention to ever shot you take and the backdrop. You don't have to shoot everything in sight as there are tons of potential targets. I personally don't shoot anything larger than a 22 caliber or take shots father than 65 yards.
 
Depends on the animals involved, density, desires of the land owner.

In California you must have written permission in your pocket if Fish and Game asks you why you are there- on a small property, this may never happen.

I've not seen depredation insurance at the NRA- TNT19 has the best solution. Talk it through in advance. 

If they trust you to shoot, they are trusting to you to fix or replace what you've damaged .

Property and personal safety is paramount. 

Getting places is hard at first, but referrals grow quickly. I've calls from properties asking if I could roll and remove a rabid raccoon, in the middle of the night. Yes I can.

That one project lead to a neighbors request to help with pigs. Turns out, he doesn't have a safe direction for us to shoot anything I would consider big enough to stop the animal immediately, and we told him so. He does let us shoot his ground squirrels and turkeys.

His neighbor had a much bigger property and we were invited to shoot the pigs there, btw.

Coyotes and turkeys have been blowing up and after losing a pet or most of their chickens, someone willing to come out at o'dark thirty consistently and safely isn't easy, unless they want to $$$$ ..

To find new properties, I use the Onyx Hunt app. Find the property you want to shoot, onyx will tell you who owns it. Find someone who knows you to introduce you to them-church, LinkedIn, facebook, clubs, etc. Try to get a warm hand off. Go to feed stores (!), Riding stables, fruit stands. Find damaged property and bring pictures. After you've cleaned up an area, show others a before and after. 

Driving by, seeing a horse rider, ask them if those squirrel holes are dangerous. Be prepared to share how quiet your rifle is.

Everyone gets my card with my cell and and email address. 
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Last thing- if you see someone working on a property that is the owner or manager, digging, fixing a fence- go help them. Helping someone when they need it is a great introduction. 
 
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