Gamo swarm. Are they worth the hype?

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    madeintheuk
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    It’s hard to deny, gamo swarm break barrels are quite enticing with their break barrel multi shot system. Something you can take out in the woods for hours of fun, with quick follow up shots, and no need for an external power source. Now I know their accuracy (or most any break barrel accuracy) will not be up to par with a pcp, but I would really like to hear from some of you gamo swarm owners. Are they accurate???

    Both the price, and the features make them a worthy try for use as a ‘shtf’ setup, or a bang around the woods taking out tree rats and chipmunks. They’re cheap enough that if they do get dropped, or banged up, it’s not a big deal, but all of this doesn’t matter if you can’t hit the broad side of a barn door from 10 feet!

    Chime in with what swarm you have, and what you use it for. If you’re happy with its accuracy, and it’s reliability. 
     

    pics are welcome, and helpful thanks!

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    Yarddog
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    I had two in .22.  As long as I kept up with the usual protocols (tight screws, etc) they were very accurate.  Those were Gen One.

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    bubblerboy64
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    I have limited experience with gamo rifles .  My buddy has one and the only complaint I have is the trigger is terrible.  Heavy and VERY creepy. I've done some work on triggers but since this rifle is not mine I didn't want to mess with it but I'd just say if you can live with the trigger or can adjust it I'd think the gun would work for your use.   Pretty heavy recoil might want to consider that when you mount a scope.  I did put a recoil reducing mount on my buddies rifle.   I like my HW 30 a lot more then the gamo but it's probably not a fair comparison.  

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    pdxFrank
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    I have a swarm magnum gen2 in .22.  Here's what it looks like at the moment…

     

     

    It's one of the many break-barrels I've had.  And it's only 1 of a couple in my life I've owned that are "keepers".

     

    The multi-shot magazine has had zero problems, and I've shot at least 2k rounds.

    I get sub-1" groups at 25 yards all day long, open sights.  Very accurate.  I use JSB Exact pellets.

     

    You can see it (and other gear) in use on my 'tube…

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnj7GXMed_V1UGiXLJZhyjw/videos

     

    Good luck in your research!

     

    Frank in Oregon

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    I have limited experience with gamo rifles .  My buddy has one and the only complaint I have is the trigger is terrible.  Heavy and VERY creepy. I've done some work on triggers but since this rifle is not mine I didn't want to mess with it but I'd just say if you can live with the trigger or can adjust it I'd think the gun would work for your use.   Pretty heavy recoil might want to consider that when you mount a scope.  I did put a recoil reducing mount on my buddies rifle.   I like my HW 30 a lot more then the gamo but it's probably not a fair comparison.  

    I agree the hw30 is fantastically accurate as are most of weir arch offerings. What I’m really interested in is the swarm multi shot system. As Rick Eutsler says, “it’s a game changer”. It’s been done before, but hasn’t been reliable or accurate. I’m hoping he’s right. It checks all the boxes, and if accuracy is there (like chipmunk at 30yds accurate),then I’d happily spend the money. 

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    I really liked the one I reviewed.

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    madeintheuk
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    I really liked the one I reviewed.

    Steve

    I watched your review on the maxim, and I was ready to pull the trigger, then I saw some written reviews, and other videos (including HAM), saying the maxim wasn’t very accurate at all. If I was to buy, I would probably go for the swarm fusion in .22. It has the updated mag, with open sights, and it’s not a magnum, so hopefully less hold picky, and easier to cock. 

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    Mike_Lenardon
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    My neighbor has one to thin out the squirrel population. The squirrels are safe….

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    tranli
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    Hi!

    I have that .22 gun (swarm fusion) with the gen2 10x magazine. Had to return the first one because of the magazine having loading issues. 40% wouldn’t load and cause dry fires. But was very accurate. My second one, worked for about a tin or two without loading issues. Unfortunately the dry fires returned and the second gun is not as accurate as the first. 
     

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    My neighbor has one to thin out the squirrel population. The squirrels are safe….

    This is what stops me from getting one.  I need my gun to be reliably accurate to 40 yards give or take.  And to  use the above example, I'd like to know its lights out for the chipmunk at 35 yards.

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    Mike_Lenardon

    My neighbor has one to thin out the squirrel population. The squirrels are safe….

    This is what stops me from getting one.  I need my gun to be reliably accurate to 40 yards give or take.  And to  use the above example, I'd like to know its lights out for the chipmunk at 35 yards

    Exactly why I posted this!! I regularly hunt chipmunks and tree rats in the woods, and if I can’t rely on it to be accurate enough at that short of a range, I guess I’ll have to deal with single loading for now. It’s such a bummer cause that mag system is awesome. But totally useless if it’s not repeatably accurate!

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    john8
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    NO! That was my first air gun, took awhile to master the springer. the reloading mechanism I replaced 3 times drops pellets out, doesn't like big pellets. The reason I got it was for the multiple shot feature. I've taken off the feed mechanism and feed pellet by pellet. I've since become disgusted with it. It sits in the corner collecting dust.

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    madeintheuk
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    So non of the gamo multi shots are worth a damn? I’ve heard of the mag having loading issues which led to misaligned probes, and damaged pellets which when fixed, made the rifle a tack driver, but I guess there’s no love for them here?

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    So non of the gamo multi shots are worth a damn? I’ve heard of the mag having loading issues which led to misaligned probes, and damaged pellets which when fixed, made the rifle a tack driver, but I guess there’s no love for them here?

    I haven't owned a "gen 1" of the swarm, but I hear those were issues resolved in the gen2.

    Me, I've shot, oh, at least a dozen different brands, weights, styles, etc. through it.  2000+ rounds at least. And I've not had a single malfunction (yet).

     

    There doesn't seem to be "a lot of love" for Gamo in general here.  I've never owned an HW-something, so I can't participate with the fan-boys.  Kinda like Glock vs 1911 or some silliness. :)  That's okay, it's a gun, I don't care who made it, so long as it does a proper job. 👍

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    and it's way more accurate than I probably ever will be…

     

     

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    Macdoc18
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    I have a swarm gen 2 non magnum and I get about 60 fps with gamo rocket pellets.. Got a new screw to tune the trigger and its better now but once you get spoiled with the low recoil of a pcp rifle, its hard to put up with this jolter/ Frequent rezeroing and a poor scope that comes with it are a problem Bought it as my first pellet gun and now use it during power blackouts. nor problems with pellet feed yet. Might sell it

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    SixGlocks
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    I have two, in .22 and .177. They are reasonably accurate to 25 yards, and kill squirrels easily. For me they are easy to crank, and I like the thumbhole stock. 

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    dixieduo
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    I have the Gamo Swarm 10x gen 2 in 22 and 177 caliber. The 177 is new a newby but the 22 I've had for 10 months. I to had to send two back for loading problems but the third one is a jewel. The CAT trigger is great with a longer screw for the sear and there has been no miss feeds in 4930 shots. The gun is a keeper and my favorite break barrel with great accuracy. Here are some 5 shot groups at 25 yards shooting JSB 18.13 grain.

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    10 pellets at 32 yards  I’ve been happy with mine so far and knock on wood no malfunctions with mag

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    Homer
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    Between my youngest son (going on fifty this year) and I we have three Gamo Swarm rifles, he has a Fusion gen one and a Maxim gen two, I have the wood stocked Bone Collector model with the gen one 10-X magazine,  mine is the newest of the lot, my son has had his for about a year, mine is about six months old, we have a back yard range and shoot several times a week and at least one day on weekends. 

    We also have several other brand of break barrels, one PCP rifle, and my vintage Sheridan Blue Streak,  all are very accurate,  that said, accuracy is a subjective term, one that has almost as many interpretations as there are shooters,  I'm no expert but in my humble opinion any break barrel air rifle capable of shooting within a 1-1/4 inch circle at 40 yds. consistently is minute of squirrel accurate,  and our Gamo Swarm rifles can do that easily,  my son's $300.00 Xsisco PCP from Flying Dragon Air Guns gives consistent one hole groups 75 yds. and opens up a bit at a hundred.

    Then, (again in my opinion) it's not all a guns fault for being inaccurate,  some guns are lemons but many have potential that's never reached because their owners don't go far enough to develop that potential,  pellets are a major factor in accuracy,  most guns have favorites, the skill and habits of the shooter have a lot to do with accuracy,  the environment in which the gun is being shot can affect it's accuracy, and then there's expectations,  some shooters just expect more out of a gun than it has the capability to achieve,  then there's care,  I know some shooters (air gunners and powder burners alike) who don't regularly clean or lube their guns or even store them properly,  one fellow one time was cursing his year old Benjamin brake barrel .177 cal. air rifle at the range claiming it to be the biggest POS gun on the market because he couldn't hit a gallon water jug at 25 yds. with it,  I asked to look at it while he was ranting and found that the stock screws were about ready to fall out and his rear scope ring was lose,  he had never checked the gun over or cleaned it since he bought it,  so it's not always the guns fault if it suffers from accuracy or function problems. 

    You can get a bad gun from any maker,  but so far all our Gamo air rifles have been keepers.      

    As an aside,  with any rotary fed air gun magazine you have to insure that the pellets you are using work well with your magazine,  some pellets are just a hair too fat,  others are a little too long,  if you have a problem loading or turning your magazine when loading it's a pretty good indicator that your magazine doesn't like that pellet type and that you may experience feeding problems. 

    Gamo triggers are not always the best out of the box,  but a simple two minute fix can work wonders with your trigger, John over at Air gun Detectives.com sells a special trigger screw that lets you adjust your Gamo SAT or CAT trigger down to light, ,smooth, and crisp without taking it apart,  you simply take a medium phillips head screw out of the trigger and replace it with John's allen head machine screw and a drop of lock tight (allen wrench is supplied with the screw), so for $10.00 and two minutes work you get an expert trigger job on your new Gamo rifle, and you did it yourself. 

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