FX wildcat trigger quality issues Att: Fredrick

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    Wingman
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    I had the chance to look over a new .25cal FX Wildcat last week and it not a bad little rig even though it has a few weak points.
    If you researched the known issues you would see and know about them before you purchase one so it wont exactly be a surprise when it breaks.. and trust me.. it will break.  

    Over all it is a well made pup with the exception of that terrible creepy and weak trigger linkage.. it is the worst trigger I have EVER felt. Unfortunately the Wildcat was built to be one of the best priced and featured pups on the current market, and they certainly got the price down (at least in Sweden and the states) but it came at the cost of cheep un-reliable components and clearly a lack of testing and quality control. The current wildcat trigger system should not even be released to the market, the engineering is out right disgraceful and Fredrick you need to revise and fix it for future production.The forums are littered with ” I broke my wildcat trigger” complaints and I can clearly see why. It is a very week point in an otherwise very well  made bullpup.  Here’s some classic examples: 

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    The piece the guy on the GTA forum is referring to is the trigger actuating part that converts the normal rearward pulled FX trigger unit to a forward pulled bullpup trigger and it is made from aluminium instead of the normal steel used in FX’s other guns. The alloy is just over 1mm across in the section that the return spring seats so when the safety catch blocks the rocker for the seer all the trigger load is transferred to this part resulting in breakage. Bullpups actually need a forward trigger blocking safety catch so no load is transferred to the linkage rods or rear trigger assembly.However this is not the case in the Wildcat so I beefed up the sloppy fit, tacky little linkage clip pins with larger close tolerance press in titanium pins with zero play and made a new trigger actuator out of hardened tooling steel with a little more meat where it needed it. The trigger adjustment screws run directly into this part so all faces were polished like a mirror creating a very slick and strong trigger unit with a smooth first stage and a crisp predictable second stage break. The original trigger adjustment was enough to drive a man to drink, the grub screws cut into the soft alloy and the parts flexed like crazy which left me chasing a “sweet spot” for 15 mins before I gave up settling for the factory squishy feel.. the best thing that happened during the chrony session was the crappy part finally broke forcing me to make it better :) 

      

      

    Not only is the trigger a sweet little match grade number now, I adjusted the safety catch to work correctly with the new steel parts and there is no awful “what am I bending inside” feeling now.. it is rock solid and reliable. Once clean and tuned up to 900fps the reg was on song with an ES of 6 FPS over 65 shots  and accuracy at 50

    meters with JSB made Edgun pellets was as good as any other L/W BSA or CZ barrels Ive tested at this range.

     

      

    Good fun little rig and a very usable hunting tool so I hope FX sort out the week points.. 

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    Now, my wildcat trigger “may” eventually break. But as of now, It is by far in the top triggers I ever felt. Especially considering the linkage.

    If you make these available for sale though, I would like the thicker meat on my assembly.

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    Hi Jlands, I am the owner of the wildcat above and recipient of the repairs improvements to my gun.

    In terms of my experience I did know the pin was bad at the trigger end of the rod because I had set the safety early in my ownership and as the trigger travelled like the regular first stage I pulled it and popped the pin out.
    ​I stuck it back in and have been using it like that for a couple of months, taking care to never use the safety.

    ​I am embarrassed to say I was ok with the trigger and although I knew from sniperlobyo and his posts it could be adjusted and improved I was waiting on a repair before I could play with adjustment.
    ​I shot a lot of small game with the gun like it was and my only worry was knowing I would loose the pin one day (or night) and I would be without my gun.

    ​I also knew my gun was needing a clean.

    ​Fast forward to giving it to Wingman and the changes.

    ​It’s pretty much like I took a really good gun (to me) that I really like and got back a gun that is the same to look at and hold but a completely different animal in terms of use!

    ​The trigger is a delight and I can not believe I was ok with the one I had before but that’s how we learn I guess. (remember it did have a loose pin as well as the flex in the part that broke) and was poorly adjusted.

    ​Couple that with the little bit more pellet speed and the clean and it’s stupid accurate and consistant.

    ​When I first saw the Wildcat I knew it was my dream gun in terms of it’s layout now I can say my gun is a dream to shoot.

    ​In terms of the part Wingman made up and replaced I can say for certain if you were to hold the original in your hand as I have and study it for a second you would not be full of confidence in it.

    ​I am lucky he broke it and not me is all I can say because once the silly little trigger pins were replaced it was always going to be an accident waiting to happen.

    ​Do I love the gun, sure I do, would I buy another, sure I would, and if it’s not improved out of the factory I would do this again.

    ​BUT it should be upgraded at manufacture if it has not already been in later models.

     

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    I have spoken with FX directly regarding this issue and they have said they will look into it.. good on FX for listening.

    For those with a FX bobcat that has already had a trigger clevis problem, there are much stronger clevis pins available from all good hobby/modelling shops..
    There are stainless steel, nylon and alloy parts available with separate (non fixed) pins that will last a lifetime. 


     
     
     
     
     
      

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    There is no comparison looking at these offerings!

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    It must have been put under a lot of stress to break it like that. Like the safety was on and it was squeezed really hard. How else would it break? It wouldn’t break under normal use. My wildcat trigger is the best trigger I’ve ever felt. Perfect amount of 1st stage and crisp 10 Oz. Second stage pull. Plus very easy and quick to adjust.

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    “FastEddie”It must have been put under a lot of stress to break it like that. Like the safety was on and it was squeezed really hard. How else would it break? It wouldn’t break under normal use. My wildcat trigger is the best trigger I’ve ever felt. Perfect amount of 1st stage and crisp 10 Oz. Second stage pull. Plus very easy and quick to adjust.

    
No not at all.. It was a case of make one part stronger and the next weakest part will break.. I replaced the flexi little broken clevis pins with larger titanium pins that removed all the play which then made the trigger component flex and break under very little load when the safety was on. The safety catch also was not adjusted from factory enough to block the trigger movement which made it feel like pulling up the first stage without the safety engaged.. I was running it over chrono and on about the 50th shot when I must have bumped the safety on while changing a mag.. very little load was needed to flex and break this part with the safety on as the trigger loads up against the very thin section where the return spring seats. FX triggers are normally as tough as nails but this additional component needed for the forward pulling trigger is a new addition to FXs std trigger design and unfortunately not up to the std of the rest of the build. The safety catch should be able to take some serious trigger loading while engaged and still feel rock solid like all other FX guns… this is not the case for the Wildcat.
    If you look at the first link I posted above you will see that it is not an isolated case. FX know well and good that they have been selling many of these trigger parts to replace broken ones.. give AOA a call yourself and ask how many of these parts they hold in stock..
    The longevity of that part is questionable and FX  have told me they are doing some stress test on that aluminium part… Good on them I say. I is a very cheap easy fix for them and Im confident they will sort it making a great pup last for may years to come.
     

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    Thanks Wingman. I didn’t realize this was a problem. Good work!

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    Jasonintn
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    Did not realize this was a problem. Mine is fine so far. Thanks for posting if something happens I know what to check first. 

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    poorshot
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    Fasteddie most people who are good shots and familiar with guns don’t pull hard on triggers, I don’t expect that you do right?

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    DuncanHynes
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    I have had my Wildcat long enough to know 1) It doesn’t leak air. YaY! 2) Trigger is acceptable and surprising given all the linkage/rods. No, it is not the best trigger out there. A TX200 has a better one and my Wolverine has the best I have seen of all (limited experience into account.) But they are not bull pups. I can get smaller than dime sized 5 shot goups at 26 yards, close to my max range of 30 on my property. I didnt even touch the adjustment screws of the trigger or any other part.
    Maybe there was a first batch of linkage rods assembled with thin connectors that was not the best. I am glad the OP machined and fixed the issue and gave others insight to their rifles. FX will listen to us, after all that’s why there IS the Wildcat.

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    Wow you should sell those machined trigger parts and upgraded clevis and pins in a kit because I would totally buy that from you. Great job on the sturdy upgrade and thanks for the info. I just recently traded my Vulcan.25 for the Wildcat.25 and so far everything is working great but I agree that the trigger components do seem to be weak and I’m not fully confident in there long term reliability. If you ever decide to make any extras just PM me and I’ll send you the money ASAP. Thanks again and happy shooting.

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    I received an email from FX today:

    Hello Phil,
    I did do some upgrades to the wildcat trigger, and it is now on every wildcat we produce.
    Thank you for your feedback. 

    Well done guys, I can tell just from the pic that it is
    WAY better than before and hopefully a lot more durable. 
    Keep up the good work.

    Regards, Phil

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    DuncanHynes
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    Dagnabbit, I want a WildCat trigger 2.0 kit. 😠

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    I was shooting mine and slips just before/as pull engages. Took stock off…absolute thin metal clevis with a watchband pin in it that comes off under the 1lbs 6oz pressure. $1,200 for this??

    “Warranty issues:
    Contact the shop were you bought the product.”

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    Hi guys, I have been getting a lot of emails from you with broken triggers on your wildcats,  just to let you know, I am not an FX dealer or service agent, I do not supply the custom parts for this fix. Please contact your FX importer/service agent for the replacement parts. FX are now making all the new wildcat triggers stronger as suggested here so it will no longer be an issue.

    Cheers Wingman

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    ATP
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    I ordered a Wildcat 2 weeks ago from AOA. Waiting on it to ship. Hope it comes with the updated trigger components!

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    DuncanHynes
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    Good luck. You have a picture of the 1st Gen and 2nd Gen. Now you have to see once it arrives.

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    ATP
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    I’ve been told import just arrived and it is the most recent version shipping now. I’ll update here if it has the better components or not.
     

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    airborne
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    WOW. Any more problems guys??? I certainly do not want to have this issue if I decide to buy a Wildcat

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