Fx Streamline .25 owners-how do you like yours?

I'm considering an FX streamline in .25 and would like to hear from some owners. How is the accuracy and shot count? Has anyone taken theirs out to 100 yards? I'm kind of on the fence about modding my .25 Marauder with a Hill valve and reg for more shots, or giving the Streamline a try. 
Pros: light weight, accurate?
Cons: Pricey (for me) and higher fill pressure ( I fill with 3300 psi scuba tanks)
Thanks,
John
 
I'd say weight and handling in the field comes in really close to the the MROD. The Marauder will be quieter, cheaper, and I like the magazine slightly better. The magazines are way cheaper as well. I'd give a slight advantage to the Streamline on accuracy, especially if you are shooting out to 100yds. I get about 40 shots at 48fpe with the Streamline. I like the trigger slightly more than the MROD. If you get a wood stock on the Streamline, they are nice. The side lever is a plus. A hidden feature that I like for hunting with the FX is that the safety won't go back all the way if it isn't cocked. If I get sidetracked and forget whether I cocked the airgun, I have a way to check without risking a double load or removing the magazine. All things being equal (which they are not) I'd pick the Streamline. The MROD is the gold standard for me though when it comes to sound suppression and magazine design. A lot of your shot count advantage with the Streamline will be lost if your not filling all the way to 230 bar. The .25 Streamline's floated barrel shroud also tends to clank on the air tube if you bump something.
 
I put a DonnyFL Sumo on my streamline and it is the quietest gun I have. Mouse fart Phhht. Is all I hear. Comparing to my Marauder, trigger is so much better on the streamline, streamline with Sumo moderator is so much quieter as well. Easy to carry, I do have the composite stock and there is some "flex" in the forearm but only noticeable if you pick it up by the forearm, so I don't pick it up that way. I would be careful with it if you are going to use it as a "4 wheeler gun" or one you just throw in the pickup. Probably not the best gun for that. I treat mine like a fine lady and treat her with respect. It is a free floating barrel and there is flex if you beat on it. I don't. I carry mine in the woods and love it! Look at my other posts and you can see my data that I shot and posted. Accuracy is so darn impressive! Hope this helps.
 
Hi John,
I have had my .25 Streamline since the beginning of the year, have shot thousands and thousands of pellets through it, and absolutely love it. Here is a couple pictures of mine.
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and here is a dove picture shot at 75 yards...
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I want you to know that I have owned a Benjamin Marauder and can give you a pretty fair comparison of some features. But up front let me say that my recommendation would be for you to get a Streamline instead of modifying something else. The Streamline is a work of art and extremely accurate, and I also love its simplicity. As you can see I run an Athlon Midas 2.5-15x50 SFP scope on her, with a Leapers Sidewheel, Vortex flip up/lay flat scope caps, a Harris Bipod, and a Huggett Belita. I like the look of the free floating barrel better than the shroud. I have mine setup to shoot the JSB 34gr. Heavy pellets at an average velocity of 830 ft/s which yields about 52 ft./lbs energy at the muzzle, with 29.67 ft./lbs energy remaining at 100 yards, and 26.65 ft./lbs energy remaining at 120 yards. Now for some comparisons...

The Streamline weighs 6.6 lbs + 1.5 lb. scope = 8.1 lbs vs. the Marauder weighs 8.2 lbs + 1.5 lb. scope = 9.7 lbs. For walking, stalking, and shooting offhand while hunting the Streamline definitely has the weight advantage.

I personally prefer the mechanical advantage of the Streamlines side lever vs. the Marauders bolt cocking lever.

The Streamline has a power adjuster wheel vs. the Marauder does not. This comes in handy for hunting where 18 ft./lbs or 30 ft./lbs is more desireable than 50 ft./lbs energy.

I prefer the hunter style safety on the Streamline vs. the safety in the trigger guard on the Marauder. I use mine the same way as Quintoona...I have it set so that I can only put the safety all the way on if the rifle is cocked, otherwise I can only put it halfway back when uncocked. Which for me is a great feature that I use all the time so I don't have to wonder... I just move the safety lever and it tells me if I am cocked and loaded.

My Streamline produced 30 shots out of the box vs. the Marauder is rated for 16 shots. So the Streamline delivers twice as many shots as the Marauder does. However, I have a Huma regulator installed in my Streamline which yields 51 shots before it falls below the regulated pressure.

The Streamline has a completely adjustable honest two stage match grade trigger that can be adjusted very easily as low as you like. For target shooting I have eliminated the first stage completely and have mine set to just a couple ounce hair trigger. I actually have it set dangerously low but I am the only one that is allowed to shoot my rifle, and I always make damn sure where it is pointing before I cock it. I would reset it for hunting though.

The Streamline has the look and feel of a real rifle to me and is more than accurate enough to take small game out to 120 yards or more. I routinely shoot at targets at 100 yards at the range, and I also shoot at little paper cone drinking cups I put out on the hill that is 21 yards behind the 100 yard line. I can hit them with the greatest of ease with my Athlon Midas 2.5-15x50 SFP Scope, and just as easily with my Bushnell Accelerate 4x Prism Sight. And I can hit those paper cups out there on the hill at 120 yards standing offhand more times than not. It is very well balanced and "points" instantly when I mount it to my shoulder.

This rifle has a 250cc air tube that can be filled to 230 bar without giving yourself a heart attack. Especially if you fill it to 3000 psi (200 bar) with your scuba tank first, and then just top it off to 3335 psi (230 bar) with your hand pump.

One outstanding difference is the price...you could buy two Marauders for the price of one Streamline. But I promise you will not regret purchasing a Streamline. My rifle will shoot 1/4" to 3/8" groups at 50 yards with no wind, and 1/2" groups if it's windy...and it does this almost effortlessly! If I told you she will shoot 1" three shot groups at 100 yards on a calm day you may not believe me...so I challenge you to see for yourself. You will not have to worry about stopping a charging Jack Rabbit at 100 yards with your Streamline! :)

All the best, Chuck


 
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Great topic, John... I'm thinking about adding a Streamline to my collection as well.

Chuck - thanks for sharing your experience. Wow, I learned a lot! Question, with Huma installed, what is the shot count with the JSB .34gr's on the High setting? Also, did you do the Huma install or send it out? If so, was it straight forward? Any special tools or jigs needed?

Thanks, Carl
 
Hey Hollowpoint,
Thanks for the compliment! So as not to hijack John's topic I am going to answer your question under the heading of "Air tanks, pumps, and compressors" / "Carbon Fiber Tank Protection." Coincidentally a guy named Orville asked about ideas on how to protect his carbon fiber tanks, so I can answer you both better there.
http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/carbon-fiber-tank-protection/
 
Hi Carl,
Out of the box my Streamline .25 gave me 40 shots...with my Huma reg she gets 51 before she falls below the regulated pressure. I set my Streamline up to shoot the 34gr. pellets at around 830 ft/s. which yields super accuracy and about 52 ft./lbs. energy on high setting. Yes I installed my Huma regs myself as well as do all my own work on my rifles. No special tools required. Just take the gun out of the stock, loosen the air gauge with an 11mm thin open end wrench to let the air out, unscrew the air tube off the receiver block, pull out the FX plenum spacer ring and regulator, slide in the new Huma reg and plenum spacer ring, screw the air tube back on, tighten the air gauge back up, fill her with air, and shoot over your chronograph while adjusting your hammer spring nut until you reach the optimum peak of performance where if you turn it in any more the velocity drops off, and if you turn it out anymore the velocity drops off. There is the peak of adjustment for that particular reg setting. Simple. 

Or of course you could send your rifle to Ernest at his new repair facility in Wilmington, N.C. in a couple weeks when he gets the doors open formally, or Airguns of Arizona will install a Huma-Air regulator in a Streamline for you...they have them in stock at a really fair price. Steve Buchanan and Kevin can get you set up in a jiffy.

All the best, Chuck
 
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Awesome... thanks for sharing the info, Chuck!

I need to sell a gun or two and get the Streamline... My collection is growing and I have trouble parting with them (bitten pretty hard and have AG fever).

Got a couple Airforce rifles and a Sumatra .25 that haven't shot in at least a year .... time to say good-bye and make room for the Streamline!

**John** sorry to take your thread a little off track. Glad I read your post!

--Carl
 
I know what you mean Oregon... I sold my two 25 caliber Sumatra rifles, and traded in my Wierauch 22 caliber rifle to airguns of Arizona for the money to buy my Wildcat, and I traded in my Condor SS with three barrels to airguns of Arizona to get my streamline. And I was very very pleased with the trade-in amount that Daren allowed me... I thought he was actually a little bit overly generous. But I sure didn't complain! :)
 
To bring this topic back on Point I would like to say this without exaggeration ... My Fx Sreamline air rifle is just stupid accurate ! It will effortlessly stack pellets at 50 yards on a calm day, so the only way it even feels like a challenge is when I shoot it on Breezy Gusty days! I would not trade my FX streamline rifle for a 100 Condors! And I really mean it!
 
So Chuck, tell me more about this Huma regulator increase in shot count. Are you operating the Streamline at a lower pressure now? Does the Huma take up less cylinder volume than the factory reg? Are the plenum sizes a lot different, resulting in a higher efficiency? Where is the magic? My factory reg is quite consistent, but I've always been happy with Huma regs and who doesn't like a higher shot count?
 
I have been experimenting with my Huma and Robert Lane Lancet MK8 regs today using different plenum spacer ring sizes in my Wildcat, trying to answer those very same questions just out of curiosity. Though for the best answers to your questions versus my personal speculation, I recommend you contact Huub Andriessen - [email protected]. He is the inventor of this wonderful device and therefore much more qualified to answer...all I truly know are the results I get with one thing versus the results I get with a different thing.

I am just humbled and elated that he agreed to make one to fit my Wildcat and my Streamline for me. And am glad they are now available so everyone else can experience the difference a Huma-Air regulator makes. I will say one thing about the plenum size...I chose the size of the plenum spacer rings for these two rifles when Huub was making the prototypes. My decision was based primarily on the original plenum size that FX had decided upon when they designed these rifles, and the standoff requirement so the breath hole in the regulator works with the breath hole in the rifle's air tube.

For the Wildcat you can use as much as an 19mm plenum spacer ring or as little as a 10.5 plenum spacer ring...it depends on how you want to set up your rifle. One setup requires a larger plenum size and another requires a smaller size. Today I setup my Wildcat with the 10.5mm plenum ring with my Huma set at 150 bar. With my hammer spring adjustment nut turned eight full turns in I am getting an average of 918 ft/s and an extreme spread of 12 ft/s with the 25.4gr. Exact Kings. I am going to go shoot it tomorrow to see how it works out set this way.

In certain cases the plenum size is dependent upon the design of the regulator, in that the breath hole in the regulator must correspond to the breath hole in the air tank. You cannot block the air tank breath hole with one of the o-rings on the regulator. I will show you some pictures below of how I decided on the plenum spacer size for the Lane Lancet MK8 regulator. Bob Lane sent me an MK8 with a plenum spacer 25.5mm long, which I sanded down to 15mm and the pictures will show you why. Besides determining the plenum size the spacer acts as a standoff from the inside end of the air tube so as to center the air tank breath hole between the o-rings on the regulator.

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 In this picture of anFX Wildcat regulator body you can see where you would have some leeway in choosing a plenum spacer size...as long as the breath hole on the air tank is in between those two o-rings on the reg body it will work. FX chose a plenum spacer ring size of 10mm for the Wildcat but you could use one 2mm larger or smaller if you wanted to. 

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 If I remember correctly this is a picture of the plenum spacer ring I chose for the Streamline...I think it was 7mm long x 28mm diameter. This size exactly centered the breath hole of the Huma reg with the breath hole of the Streamline's air tube I believe.

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 Here you can see there is a little wiggle room between the o-rings on the Huma reg for the Wildcat and Streamline, but not very much. The end result was that the plenum size of my Streamline with my Huma reg in it is somewhat smaller than the original. What difference does this make...if any? I surely don't know! I am just a house painter that had to figure out a different way to skin this Wildcat is all I know. A lot of trial and error...and some very expensive mistakes. I turned a $1300.00 Wildcat into a $2600.00 Wildcat without even trying very hard though...;-)