NEW FX MAVERICK: Any thoughts?

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Wow! Very intriguing! The things FX does always seems to amaze me! This dual reg. is something that I heard from a world class shooter that many of them quietly use in competitions, and I do understand why.

For example, several of my guns' regs work really well, at 250 bar to 150bar, but at 300 to 250 bar the are much more socratic. So, therefore, I am not always able to use their full shot capability if I'm planning on shooting at longer distances. I can see this dual reg system as very positive addition in that sense.

FX is still pushing innovation and continue setting new standards. I hope the rest of the manufactures can keep up!


 
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what SAVEs the first reg, and if it can not take the 3000+psi, will the system fail, will we back back to the same point,

please explain.
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Nothing is going to save the 1st reg due to wear and tear or else i can say the same thing for the 2nd reg or any other gun thats has one reg. Lets see if i was out in the field how would you know the 1st reg failed?? If the 1st reg failed open you can’t tell if 2nd reg is working-by looking at the reg guage. Oring failure is a different story and you know oring have different mind set —- they fail when ever they want 2 —> after working and tuning different AG’s thats how i feel😞

Ernest 
 
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Wow! Very intriguing! The things FX does always seems to amaze me! This dual reg. is something that I heard from a world class shooter that many of them quietly use in competitions, and I do understand why.

For example, several of my guns' regs work really well, at 250 bar to 150bar, but at 300 to 250 bar the are much more socratic. So, therefore, I am not always able to use their full shot capability if I'm planning on shooting at longer distances. I can see this dual reg system as very positive addition in that sense.

FX is still pushing innovation and continue setting new standards. I hope the rest of the manufactures can keep up!



Nice in puts.



here’s another: 

Have anyone keep track of there shot string FPS and ES from fill to off reg (lets say 125b)—have you notice around 190-or before going of reg there is a sweet spot the ES are tight — all reg guns does and I can see it —> anyway with dual reg setup you can set the 1st reg on the sweet spot and the 2nd reg will be more consistent/stable 

Ernest

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what SAVEs the first reg, and if it can not take the 3000+psi, will the system fail, will we back back to the same point,

please explain.
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Nothing is going to save the 1st reg due to wear and tear or else i can say the same thing for the 2nd reg or any other gun thats has one reg. Lets see if i was out in the field how would you know the 1st reg failed?? If the 1st reg failed open you can’t tell if 2nd reg is working-by looking at the reg guage. Oring failure is a different story and you know oring have different mind set —- they fail when ever they want 2 —> after working and tuning different AG’s thats how i feel
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Ernest
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Ernst, l like this new platform. It looks way more rugged than the Impact. If you could enlighten us based on your extensive testing, what is the maximum length slug that can be accepted into the magazine of these? And what kind of fps and power are they achieving with the heaviest slugs?
 
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I’m not sure what niche FX is attempting to fill with the Maverick. I guess only time will tell if it’s a winner for both the buyer and FX. At $1599 for the Compact and $1699 for the Sniper both are still out of the hands of most folks. If the price for a FX Maverick vs an Impact is the only deciding factor, then I’d suspect FX will be selling a lot of Mavericks. It’s almost an Impact but it’s not an Impact.

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The way I look at it, it's practically their checkmate move on the overall airgun industry, until other competitors can keep up with similar price and performance. They're risking their own "Queen" (aka impact) in this strategic move. Considering the impact was and is still selling like hot cakes, they knowingly and strategically launched this gun in anticipation it'll cannibalize their own impact, but overall just dunk on the airgun industry as a whole. There's no competitor I would even consider now with the price range and specs being put out by either the sniper or compact version (form factor aside). Wonder when they're going to launch their hammerless design. 


 
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I’m not sure what niche FX is attempting to fill with the Maverick. I guess only time will tell if it’s a winner for both the buyer and FX. At $1599 for the Compact and $1699 for the Sniper both are still out of the hands of most folks. If the price for a FX Maverick vs an Impact is the only deciding factor, then I’d suspect FX will be selling a lot of Mavericks. It’s almost an Impact but it’s not an Impact.

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The way I look at it, it's practically their checkmate move on the overall airgun industry, until other competitors can keep up with similar price and performance. They're risking their own "Queen" (aka impact) in this strategic move. Considering the impact was and is still selling like hot cakes, they knowingly and strategically launched this gun in anticipation it'll cannibalize their own impact, but overall just dunk on the airgun industry as a whole. There's no competitor I would even consider now with the price range and specs being put out by either the sniper or compact version (form factor aside). Wonder when they're going to launch their hammerless design. 

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It will definitely cannibalize Impact sales. However I believe enhancements such as hammerless that you mentioned (along with others) are probably already in the works to keep the Impact sales going. They will probably release an upgraded Impact in the spring of 2021.
 
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Looks like they have taken a design that was already too complicated and made it even more complicated. The good news, the folks in the NC service department have rock solid job security! Dual regs? I'm reminded of the old saying, "the perfect solution to a nonexistent problem."
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Agree 100% they have a hard enough time with there other rifles
 
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With unregulated guns you don't need to pay attention and store them right at the set reg pressure point in order to minimize any chance of creep (goes for any brand regulated guns) so that first unexplained random missed shot never happens nor need to dry fire before shooting. With unregulated guns their first shot is always dead on no matter how long they have been stored.

Matter of fact the old non regulated FX Tarantula (including their non regulated vatiants) have already been proven to be some of the most accurate long distance shooting guns.
 
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I like this maverick, and I find the asking price fair.

I’m curious as to what or how it will affect the used gun market for folks selling their mk2 impacts to fund another purchase. $1700 to $2000 seems to be the asking price these days on a near new mk2 power plenum model and depending on if it has a couple of accessories already on it, $2000 is at the top end for selling used, but less than a year old.

Buyers, especially ones that aren’t “impact only buyers” are going to weigh out the costs of old vs new- “why buy a year old MK2 power plenum impact for $1900 used when I can buy a brand new Maverick?”

Be prepared for mk2 power plenum impacts to be now in the $1400 to $1600 price range. Great for the buyer, and a big loss to the seller. I envision more future impacts being sold with more bling bolted on to them such as Saber Tactical upgrades along with a scope going with it to keep it in the $1800 range.

The same will hold true for folks wanting to off their 6 month old wildcat MK3’s, and the crowns. 
 
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Credits to FX: they keep on inventing a new gun/version with just enough new features to keep their customer-base coming back to buy it.

Their strategy is as much about airgun-technology, as it is about understanding the lust of of their customer base for the newest hi tech, and then putting in just enough new features to justify a new purchase... And then doing it all over again in another 3 or 6 months.

Pretty good business model if you ask me...
 
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Something tells me it won't be long before someone has brought out a reg that fits between the impact bottle and bottle connector, or possibly between the block itself and the connector, so it can also be dual regged. 

With an 89cc plenum, how long before the impact is second fiddle power and efficiency wise too, particularly in the 30cal? Unless of course the maverick been purposefully bottlenecked somewhere else along the air pipeline, which I doubt.

Seems to me the maverick might just prove a little less hold sensitive than the impact given the bulkier and more solid seeming aluminum chassis sitting below the barrel, block and plenum directly connecting the grip and butt. As opposed to the relatively thin aluminum bar sitting above those easily torqued bits in the impact?
 
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This gun is not meant to compete with the impact....completely different!

Its Basically a Wildcat Mk111 with a huge dual reg plenum and a bottle! ...and all tactical looking !!! 

Think I still want Crown Mk11...

James from Michigan
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It's a tactical, tunable, forward cocking, lead flinging device with many of the same parts, similar performance numbers and a lower price - it's competing with the impact alright.

In fact I really can't see any difference at all in target market apart from including more of those who couldn't quite afford the impact previously and would have gone for an RTI etc.

Maybe it's a little rougher/less refined, but I'm doubtful that'll make the several hundred (thousand where I'm from) buck difference. Despite what Dubber said in the video I've never heard anyone say an impact trigger is better than a wildcat's. It's usually the opposite, linkage or no. So basically the only potential refinement difference I can think of is likely to be the distance of the hammer smack to the shooters ear. Maybe the lack of a valve adjuster will make a big difference in ease of tuning, maybe not 🤷‍♂️
 
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This gun is not meant to compete with the impact....completely different!

Its Basically a Wildcat Mk111 with a huge dual reg plenum and a bottle! ...and all tactical looking !!! 

Think I still want Crown Mk11...

James from Michigan
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It's a tactical, tunable, forward cocking, lead flinging device with many of the same parts, similar performance numbers and a lower price - it's competing with the impact alright.

In fact I really can't see any difference at all in target market apart from including more of those who couldn't quite afford the impact previously and would have gone for an RTI etc.

Maybe it's a little rougher/less refined, but I'm doubtful that'll make the several hundred (thousand where I'm from) buck difference. Despite what Dubber said in the video I've never heard anyone say an impact trigger is better than a wildcat's. It's usually the opposite, linkage or no. So basically the only potential refinement difference I can think of is likely to be the distance of the hammer smack to the shooters ear. Maybe the lack of a valve adjuster will make a big difference in ease of tuning, maybe not
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Target market!!! That's FX in a nutshell!!!

They are by far not the best guns out there...But they definitely have the best marketing by far worldwide...the transformer Lego land guns for the guy that's never happy with what he has!!! Lol

James from Michigan 
 
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New Mavericks in stock... check!

New Crown Mk2 in stock... check!

New .30 cal FX Hybrids in stock... check!

New 700mm Superior and Superior Heavy liners in stock... NOT! Out of stock for how many months now? More than three at least, closer to six. New model guns are great, but how about some support for legacy owners? Seems like the only way to get a new 700mm Superior or Superior Heavy liner is to buy a new Maverick... ;(

PS., I like and agree with the comment above that said “sometimes you have to sacrifice your Queen...”. Impact sales will nose dive, because, well, why pay $400 to $500 more for the same thing? But knowing FX, there is more than likely a MAJOR upgrade in the works for the Impact. Hammerless? Semi-auto? Electronic?
And the dual regs on the new gun? Yeah, right... A little bit on the gimmicky side I think. If you really think it’s necessary why haven’t we seen lots of Huma bottle regs installed on Impacts in competition...? Thought so... 
 
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@Centercut - I think I'm coming to the conclusion that fx is probably even better at marketing than engineering guns (not a slight towards their guns, but rather how good their marketing is). To me, their "Queen" is not more important than the overall brand, aka the "King". Similar to the auto industry, they are just proving to the industry that they don't need their queen to win the game, they just need a piece that others cannot stop. 
 
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