FX marketing

Im talking about power mods, 140 for polish plenum and 100 for the 6.5mm valve seat, hammer weight and delrin c3. That gave me 72fpe in .22, 99fpe in .25 and 127 in .30. Sure double bottle, gold dipped barrel and other things can be done.

The Subaru STI was an example was talking about Canadian dollars after tax is close to 50k again just an example.
 
FX has figured out that in America you have to provide service after the sale. When the average person can buy any kind of gun they want, an expensive airgun that will frequently need expensive repairs and a lot of support equipment is a hard sell. After all a 22 caliber rifle with a silencer is more than a match for any airgun 25 caliber and under. I have some expensive PCP's and most have needed warranty work. FX warranty work has been top notch and fast, the reason being they invested in a service center in the USA. When you have to rely on a dealer to provide warranty service you have to remember his first priority is to sell guns and then when he gets time he will work on your gun. Also you have to remember a dealer is not going to stock much in repair parts and if he has to order them from overseas you know a portion of your warranty period is going to get used up waiting for them. Airguns of Arizona has put out a lot of good repair videos and they do warranty repairs for Daystate products but I have not seen any of these foreign manufactures put out a service manual or setup at least a USA based parts warehouse for support of their products besides FX and that is one reason FX is doing better in the USA. And most airgun manuals do not have schematics and complete parts lists. One of my guns is a Vulcan, the owners manual has a good picture schematic but the parts list is incomplete and almost useless if you had to order a part. Until the rest of the industry figures out that they have to provide in country service our sport will never take off.
 
I just can't buy into it. Seeing all these people who upgrade there impacts just baffles me. Hundreds of dollars in Huma regs, plenum upgrades, rail extenders, adjustable butt pads, then the mods like opening ports and valve seats just seems crazy on such an expensive gun. It should be ready to go from the factory IMO. But hey if they have the money and wanna spend it there then great! But if I'm dropping 2 grand on a gun all I should need to do is mount a scope and be done.

Also why are the Air Hunters and Matt Dubber using such highly modified Impacts in there videos? To me that shows that the Impact on its own isn't good enough for there uses. Now sure maybe there getting those parts from the people who make them also to boost there sales but of the Impact was so good they should be showing off the OEM guns with stock performances not with all the upgrades. But again just my opinion.

I mean when I think of moddifyng an airgun I think of a Mrod not an expensive one.

I believe that air hunters guns are, or were at least, stock inside last I heard although some of Matt's may not be I believe most are. One can just put a scope on an Impact and have an excellent gun. It will operate great from .177 to .30 caliber in it's stock form that is a huge even unheard of thing! But many of us like to personalize our cars, computers, guns and homes to make them what we want them to be. I find there is usually room for improvement with pretty much anything I buy so the mods begin shortly after the purchase to make them better than what they are. Cars can have wider wheels and tires and upgraded suspension parts to make them handle better and be safer. AR15's can have longer or shorter barrels depending on the range one shoots, the caliber can be changed , sights can be changed, gas systems can be changed pretty much everything can be changed to take them to them next level. So our Impacts are MADE TO BE MODIFIED and more so now that so many aftermarket vendors have put forth the effort to make parts for them. It's not that they need it it's that we want it for our specific desires. Once the addiction takes hold it's hard not to modify these guns although modifying the internals usually takes away much of the ability of the stock gun to shoot at lower powers. Still we need to port the barrel and pellet probe, replace the C3 bumper, add hammer weight, install a larger valve seat and then a plenum... ;^) Nothing wrong with having a little fun!

I started out modifying Crosman's and when I got the Impact a for what I thought to be an obscene amount of money I left it stock as I was afraid to ruin an expensive part. But when I found the parts to be less expensive than I thought the mods began and it goes on and on...
 
I bought an impact because of youtubers, not because I was drawn in by the hype, I wanted to see if the hype is justified. The short answer is yes it probably is. 

strangely though, I have not found anything it is really good at. It not as accurate as some of my other guns, not as quiet, not as good looking, not as comfortable, not as consistent, not as efficient, not as easy to work on, not as reliable, not as durable, not as well made but it is good enough in all those things to be a really good gun.

A lot has been said about about the easy change barrels, external reg and power adjustment? Really? how difficult is it to change barrels or power on a RAW for example? Its not, 3 grubscrew to remove the barrel, 2 grubscrews to replace the probe and a Allen key to adjust power. I am sure there are other guns that are equally easy to swap barrels/calibres. I do like the thinking behind the barrel liner and the research FX are doing with that, are they more accurate than a standard rifled barrel? Who knows

The impact does well in extreme bench rest, something I couldn’t understand why before I got mine. At 30-50 and 100 yards my impact is not as precise as my best guns, but in less than per conditions it’s more accurate. The reason being the speed you are able to shoot, with the impacts fast rate of firing, you are only making allowances for wind conditions that changed within a second or two, rather than 30 seconds for a single shot loader,

I like the impact better than I thought I would but, if for what ever reason I needed to sell one of my guns, it will be the first to go, for the time being though, it’s a keeper.



Bb
 
It will operate great from .177 to .30 caliber in it's stock form that is a huge even unheard of thing!



This proves the effectiveness of FX marketing department !

I can shoot an FT course in the morning with a sub12fpe .177 RAW . Go out hunting in the afternoon with 165fpe .357 monster and change it into a 6fpe pistol in the evening with no modification to the block, just replacement of a few parts and adjustment of the reg



Bb
 
Few years ago I thought having interchangable barrels was a fabulous idea. My thoughts now are it's a waste of my time, change barrel, tune gun, adjust scope etc, To much involved when I could easily bring another gun that's set up correctly for task at hand. I honestly can't think of one time that I needed to change calibers. It's an invention of a problem that never really existed. I think some people really just aren't ever happy unless they can tinker with something.
 
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It will operate great from .177 to .30 caliber in it's stock form that is a huge even unheard of thing!

This proves the effectiveness of FX marketing department ! "

Indeed!

Marketing, just a few short years and it HAS changed! Only the latest ( promoted as greatest but wont out shoot a 20 yr old rig) promoted by "influences" are desired.

It used to be pre-charged airguns needed an o-ring replaced every 10+ years. This was the NORMAL. Easy to achieve with correct design materials & manufacture. "Special" barrel whose #1 trait is lower cost to produce (if a better barrel could be made IT would rule asap no matter what, doesnt happen). Folks used to want RIDGED , right or wrong -personally I vote for ridged- but with Marketing soda straw sleeved ala old Crosman but the entertainment/Marketing just sells & sells.

People use to think a bit about thier own personal wants/needs/desires. Now most just want to be "informed" what's "best>

Marketing, meeha.



John


 
Few years ago I thought having interchangable barrels was a fabulous idea. My thoughts now are it's a waste of my time, change barrel, tune gun, adjust scope etc, To much involved when I could easily bring another gun that's set up correctly for task at hand. I honestly can't think of one time that I needed to change calibers. It's an invention of a problem that never really existed. I think some people really just aren't ever happy unless they can tinker with something.

So true, Dana!

I tried the switch barrel thing with powder burners, it wasn't for me, though it did save money not having to buy another rifle, mount, rings and scope, etc. In the end I found out that I just wanted to grab a rifle that was zeroed and go shoot it even if I had to spend more money to do so.

I have a Impact and to me there is as much to like about it as there is to dislike. I like the concept of it but it could have been executed better, FX should have tested and revised the Gen1 before they brought it to market. Actually I wanted to wrap it around a tree for a year because I had so many problems with it and was really pissed off that I spent $2000 on it. Well Bobby found out all the problems and fixed them and he's so good at doing these things the right way! Now I like the rifle and it's certain attributes, plus I hate selling things at a loss, so I'm keeping it. But at this point I don't plan on many upgrades, maybe a high capacity mag system which is by far my favorite thing about the rifle (especially since the damn clear lens on my current mag is cracked) and while I'm talking about mags,"ALL" my FX mags have cracked lenses, see what I mean about FX not getting things right from the start??!! I'm not interested in other calibers or slug liners. Presently I'd rather buy 22rf match ammo for the awesome rifle that's already paid off. 

Though I'm not the tinkering type, I could see why others would want to play with mod's and tune to their hearts content, they just can't help it. 

FX definitely doesn't lack in the innovation and marketing areas. I do see Daystate and AOA stepping up in all regards the last few years and think it's only going to get better.