FX Impact x 177 finally arrived,but a big disappointment

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Raptor ... it's been a little over 18 months since I played around with the trigger and like a lot of the people on this forum, when I attempted to adjust it I lost the first stage pull so now all I have is a single stage trigger but it goes off with very little pressure … and I MEAN VERY LITTLE PRESSURE. I wouldn't recommend getting it as light as I do unless you are certain that you are going to be the only one using the gun and you are not a forgetful person. Mine is as light as I could make it and still have the safety work, but I wouldn't rely on a safety with a trigger as light as mine … I usually carry it un-cocked just in case. 

It is hard to explain the trigger on the Impact because when you turn one screw you it can very easily change the adjustment that you made to the other screw. Ernest Rowe did a video on adjusting the trigger on the Impact and I'm sure that if you type in "Adjusting the FX Impact trigger" you will be able to find it on YouTube or you can go to Ernest's Web Site and see it there under the section dedicated to the Impact. The trouble with that video is that it leaves you with as many questions as it provides answers. I played around with mine for about 6 hours before I got it as light and as steady as possible. Once you get it where you want it put a little finger nail polish on it or some blue loc-tite on the screw with a tooth pick. Any time you adjust the trigger on any gun always be sure that the safety is working properly before you lock the trigger down.

John



i watched mr Rowe’s video on trigger adjustments, I don’t know if I am slow or what but i didn’t get anything from watching that video:-/

it would be nice if he showed how to get a heavy trigger set light from start to finish, without cutting the spring since it voids the warranty.
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Glad You got it figured out! I felt bad for You having spent all that hard earned money on something that didn't meet Your expectations. To me it seemed similar to buying a new Mercedes and having it break down while leaving the dealership. I wouldn't be happy sitting in a new car waiting on the tow truck...just because it's a Mercedes. I Certainly didn't mean to piss in anyones Rice Krispies,I just call it as I see it.
 
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Ah yes, a trouble free gun. That's the one we all want. Who's selling them now? I heard they don't exist. Nothing made by man will last forever.....trouble free is a myth. Again, it's not a gun for everyone just because they can afford it. And the amount of people complaining (though it seems like alot- commiseration is addictive ) pales in comparison to the numbers sold.
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It’s not about lasting forever or, trouble free. But trouble right out the box? My first PCP Gamo Urban, other than loosening the barrel band, trouble free. My Brocock Compatto trouble free right out the box, 2K+ pellets through it not one hiccup. Maybe I got lucky?

But getting back to the OP good for you that you have it shooting to your satisfaction.
 
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Ah yes, a trouble free gun. That's the one we all want. Who's selling them now? I heard they don't exist. Nothing made by man will last forever.....trouble free is a myth. Again, it's not a gun for everyone just because they can afford it. And the amount of people complaining (though it seems like alot- commiseration is addictive ) pales in comparison to the numbers sold.
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It’s not about lasting forever or, trouble free. But trouble right out the box? My first PCP Gamo Urban, other than loosening the barrel band, trouble free. My Brocock Compatto trouble free right out the box, 2K+ pellets through it not one hiccup. Maybe I got lucky?

But getting back to the OP good for you that you have it shooting to your satisfaction.
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I think the point is that any manufactured product can be defective. Obviously it hurts more when it is something expensive but it happens. I’ve had a broken marauder out of the box and an impact trigger issue out of the box. Does that mean Benjamin and FX suck? Nope! Because I’ve also had a marauder pistol and FX crown work perfect.

It’s the same with cars... even Honda and BMW can have issues.

I find it silly that people assume their personal, isolated experience with a brand is the norm and they just write them off forever. Human nature, I guess...
 
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Well my impact finally arrived today and I must I’m really disappointed!

first of the trigger was set really heavy, so much that wasn’t fun to shoot. I found mr Rowers videos on how to adjust trigger and helped a little but not enough, and I thought f.. that I’ll adjust it later and started shooting it and I started with JSB Heavy and no matter what setting I used on the hammer adjuster they wouldn’t group. I then tried JSB Monster and JSB Exact all 4.52mm non of them will group right.. i then tried the Heavy’s again, and on my third shot half way through the loading process, the cocking leaver just stopped! 

So now it’s stuck halfway and the pellet is halfway in I think, because I can’t get the mag out and I can’t move the cocking leaver. And now I don’t really what to do..

i thought I would have more then 60 shots through it before anything went wrong, I’m so disappointed right now
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this is NOT new for FX owners.....i had 4 fx rifles and all 4 came to me with problems.... leaks, scratched barrel, regulator preassure doesnt stay in place......
 
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Ah yes, a trouble free gun. That's the one we all want. Who's selling them now? I heard they don't exist. Nothing made by man will last forever.....trouble free is a myth. Again, it's not a gun for everyone just because they can afford it. And the amount of people complaining (though it seems like alot- commiseration is addictive ) pales in comparison to the numbers sold.
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It’s not about lasting forever or, trouble free. But trouble right out the box? My first PCP Gamo Urban, other than loosening the barrel band, trouble free. My Brocock Compatto trouble free right out the box, 2K+ pellets through it not one hiccup. Maybe I got lucky?

But getting back to the OP good for you that you have it shooting to your satisfaction.
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I think the point is that any manufactured product can be defective. Obviously it hurts more when it is something expensive but it happens. I’ve had a broken marauder out of the box and an impact trigger issue out of the box. Does that mean Benjamin and FX suck? Nope! Because I’ve also had a marauder pistol and FX crown work perfect.

It’s the same with cars... even Honda and BMW can have issues.

I find it silly that people assume their personal, isolated experience with a brand is the norm and they just write them off forever. Human nature, I guess...
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With respect, I think the point is that when you spend big money (for me anyway) on expensive gear it should/better work right out of the box. The manufacturer or vendor should ensure they are sending a tested product to the buyer. It’s not “silly” to feel slighted or disappointed if your expectations are not met especially if spending 2K plus.
 
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I’m happy now that the gun shoots nice, but I still think FX has QC issues mag jam after 60 shots, took the prope grub screw out and gave it locktite. Last night the power wheel was loose took that screw out to and gave it locktite. And the trigger really sucks it’s so heavy and in my opinion really tricky to adjust.. all that should have been done at the factory before it leaves to go out to the costumer. No matter what price tag there is on a gun it should work, wenn it leaves the factory.

Now for shooting, I’m lucky it nice and warm here and it’s October but the wind is really bad to day, I will go out and shoot but only for fun and plinking because I can’t get any good results with that wind sadly:)

after shooting I will look at mr Rowes trigger adjustment videos again, and see if I can solve the problem with that trigger, it really bothers me
 
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I agree all that stuff should be checked before the gun leaves the factory. Instead what they did is opened a new repair facility in the U.S.. They should have hired Ernest Rowe to check the guns before they sell them not after they (quickly) have problems.

Most of the issues are minor and easily fixed but some people spend 2K on an airgun so they DON'T have to screw around with it to get it working right.
 
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So you spend several thousands of dollars or pounds and the gun does not work. These are not cheap Turkish or Chinese clones they are serious rifles and should work straight out of the box.

I think rifle makers take us buyers for granted when it comes to buying rifles and the rush by the manufacturers to get new rifles or indeed any thing straight ,from design production to repair sellers missing out the testing needed.

Its hugely frustrating pick up a brand new rifle up setting it up only to have your excitement crushed.

i bough a 2k rifle several years ago and found it leaking air as I took it out of the box. I phoned the manufacturer directly and was told sorry you must go via the reseller. I did not fancy driveling to 350 miles to my RFD but they would not budge even when I told them I was 10 miles away from the factory.

So what did I do I drove to the factory did not tell them I had already called and was told to go away.

i felt low telling them that I was just driving by and was taking a chance to ask if they could mend my rifle.

They repaired it and asked if I would like it configured to me, I jumped at the chance and boy was it worth telling a white lie yes it was.

Quality countrol varies from manufacturers in the air gun world. Say for example manufacturer A beings out a new rifle and it is a top seller word gets around and every one wants one. So the manufacturer rampts up the production line and more and more rifles are ordered and soon delay come in and customers have to wait. What happens then the production line is ramped up again but some thing has to give and QC gets hit parts are rushed and things start to get missed. Supply and demand and shooters will walk away.

QC is king do it right have good in house QC and repairs listen to you buyers and you will go far. Start cutting corners and word travels and you losses sales.
 
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So you spend several thousands of dollars or pounds and the gun does not work. These are not cheap Turkish or Chinese clones they are serious rifles and should work straight out of the box.

I think rifle makers take us buyers for granted when it comes to buying rifles and the rush by the manufacturers to get new rifles or indeed any thing straight ,from design production to repair sellers missing out the testing needed.

Its hugely frustrating pick up a brand new rifle up setting it up only to have your excitement crushed.

i bough a 2k rifle several years ago and found it leaking air as I took it out of the box. I phoned the manufacturer directly and was told sorry you must go via the reseller. I did not fancy driveling to 350 miles to my RFD but they would not budge even when I told them I was 10 miles away from the factory.

So what did I do I drove to the factory did not tell them I had already called and was told to go away.

i felt low telling them that I was just driving by and was taking a chance to ask if they could mend my rifle.

They repaired it and asked if I would like it configured to me, I jumped at the chance and boy was it worth telling a white lie yes it was.

Quality countrol varies from manufacturers in the air gun world. Say for example manufacturer A beings out a new rifle and it is a top seller word gets around and every one wants one. So the manufacturer rampts up the production line and more and more rifles are ordered and soon delay come in and customers have to wait. What happens then the production line is ramped up again but some thing has to give and QC gets hit parts are rushed and things start to get missed. Supply and demand and shooters will walk away.

QC is king do it right have good in house QC and repairs listen to you buyers and you will go far. Start cutting corners and word travels and you losses sales.
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I agree that the entire industry needs to do a better job of QC. Things are going to happen but simple stuff like leaks or bolts not cocking should be caught right away.

I’m jealous that you live in an area that you could just stop in at the AA or Daystate factories. But then there’s that whole sub 12 ft lb business... ;-)
 
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its nice that you guys have mr Rowes, but on the other side of the pond we don’t have any tuners or guys like Mr Rowes. I honestly don’t know were seller would sent my gun to if I returned for repairs, my guess would be FX factory in Sweden.



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yes get QC sorted and they would get more costumers that way, I lot of people won’t touch the Impact because of all the problems with it, and I to was really nervous obout buying it, I was so close to buy the Wildcat instead, just to be sure to have a reliable gun but I have really liked the impact since it came out and took the chance and bought it. I must admit the day I got it, I was so close to sending it back but I’m glad that I didn’t.

2 groups at 32 yards. If I can keep it still it will hit the target even with a good bit of wind!

what is that little brass screw for just over the grip?
 
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Well I chose to contact my dealer, and then I’ll see where that gets me.

i have no idea what happened to it, because it was a buzz sound wenn I shot it and not a hzz like air escaping. It doesn’t lose air I have watched it since yesterday and needle hasn’t moved at all.

i have searched the forum for threads, that have the same problem with Impact but I couldn’t find any :-(
 
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John

no pellet in barrel, I shot 5 shots with the Buzz sound and after that the sound stopped ,and accuracy was really bad, with big groups.the sound was so low that I wouldn’t have noticed it, if I had not had my head on the stock aiming. If I had shot the gun through the crony I would newer have noticed anything

it bothers me that I don’t know what it is, so maybe I could fix it myself if should happen again. But I have searched and I couldn’t find anything
 
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IMO FX Impact is not a rifle for everyone, there is just too much complex for an average air shooter. Too many failure points.

If you love DIY and you are capable to take the complete gun apart, and reassemble (much easy now with ER masterclass, but not easy if you know what I mean), you love tuning (if you change calibers is a must) Chrony is a must and you will use lots of pellets. Then the Impact might be the right one, if not, will be a headache for sure. Since all this is not what the average air gunner want to do (understandable) 

I saw a few pictures and found some problems there, for example (and it might be the picture only) the Hammer Spring Valve is to tight (in that picture only), and the pellet prove screw is not in all the way ( probable problem= the pellet prove is not align, so the transfer port is not aligned), the buzz, is probably a broken oring.

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Here the probe screw look loose, is not all the way in.



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Here the HSV looks too tight

Good luck with your fix. Please do not take this the wrong way, I feel your pain (I have the impact X in all calibers) and for some The impact is a beauty, but a High maintenance beauty! ;)
BTW Ernest Rowe is great helping if you are a DIY king of guy.
 
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HI edosan

im not a big DIY guy, and I haven’t got much experience in air guns. 

But i do think following mr Rowes videos will get me a long way, my plan was to get it to shoot nice and leave it at that. If it shoots well I don’t need to tinker with it👍

The pictures was right out of box,and I haven’t adjusted anything yet there. HSV was turned out and the grub set screw on the probe was unscrewed and got locktite, so did the power wheel.

but I could feel wenn loading the gun, that it felt like the probe wasn’t probably aligned even though the set screw was fully seated and locktitet ( is that a word?)

my plan right now is to order a complete re-seal kit and 2 Huma gauges, so I know the exact pressure in the gun and then take it one step at the time☺️

of course with some help from experienced guys like your self I hope ☺️
 
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