My point exactly. I'll bet that $1750.00 will come in handy at some point! ...or buy a helluva Lot of o'rings.
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FX Impact x 177 finally arrived,but a big disappointment
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My point exactly. I'll bet that $1750.00 will come in handy at some point! ...or buy a helluva Lot of o'rings.
It's a shame about these impacts because they have great potential when dialed in, I have the same experience with my Royale as Stefan but 12k+ rounds through it and the same maintenance few o-rings on the regulator and one breech o-ring. Same company as these Impacts, agreed they need to ENSURE these are good when they leave the factory.
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2K plus guns better be good to go right out the box. Having to “tinker” might be understood on entry level PCPs, or not.
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I am sorry guys but this kind of money on a gun, It should be 100% out of the box.
I would get a full refund and look around for a trouble free gun, There out there for about 1000, less money than you paid.
Mike
I would get a full refund and look around for a trouble free gun, There out there for about 1000, less money than you paid.
Mike
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Ah yes, a trouble free gun. That's the one we all want. Who's selling them now? I heard they don't exist. Nothing made by man will last forever.....trouble free is a myth. Again, it's not a gun for everyone just because they can afford it. And the amount of people complaining (though it seems like alot- commiseration is addictive ) pales in comparison to the numbers sold.
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Or you spend $700 more and buy a Daystate???? Posted as a question. I'd be interested in hearing a direct comparison between an FX impact and a Daystate pulsar with respect to quality and reliability . The advantage I see to the impart is the interchangeable barrels but how important that would be to me I haven't decided. A $2000 gun should need no tweaking or very little.
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It’s almost like airguns are no different than any other manufactured product and defective merchandise makes it out of the factory once in a while. Imagine that!
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And, in the Impact the .177 is the most difficult of the impacts to get great accuracy out of...
Sand the magazine, but first, do try single loading, to eliminate any possibility of that creating problems. You can make a single shot tray quickly and cheaply by going to Staples, getting a big pencil eraser. I used a drill, but a sharp exacto knofe will allow you to make a tray to feed the gun. There are pictures on line for the shape you need, and 20 minutes should get you something you can use.
I have 3 barrels for my Impact, and the .177 barrel is the only one that frustrates me. I shoot Field Target and it isn't as consistent as my Pulsar. It also requires discipline in shooting well- the form factor isn't conventional, so from the sticks, proper repeatible, hold and grip are required, not to mention scope alignment.
The .177 has the smoothest shot cycle, is the quietest (backyard shooting, anyone), least expensive to feed, and perversely, is the most rewarding when the shooter does everything right.
That includes lots of chrony work, checking every screw that moves when cocking/ firing, every session ( and there are a lot of them) and throwing away the first shot after refilling. My FX likes running @ 825 fps for accuracy with JSB 10.3's . The reg, using the crap stock gauge, is near 100 psi.
The higher I go beyond that fps, the more fliers I get. Do try a slower velocity (there is a too slow speed- FYI) and let us know?
You might want a turnkey gun to shoot while you fiddle with the Impact, so the frustration isn't as..frustrating? Seriously consider getting something like a Beeman P-17 that you just shoot, enjoy for what it is, and then go back to the bench to work on the FX. It may be a bit of a ship in the bottle at first, but you'll learn tons working on it!
Sand the magazine, but first, do try single loading, to eliminate any possibility of that creating problems. You can make a single shot tray quickly and cheaply by going to Staples, getting a big pencil eraser. I used a drill, but a sharp exacto knofe will allow you to make a tray to feed the gun. There are pictures on line for the shape you need, and 20 minutes should get you something you can use.
I have 3 barrels for my Impact, and the .177 barrel is the only one that frustrates me. I shoot Field Target and it isn't as consistent as my Pulsar. It also requires discipline in shooting well- the form factor isn't conventional, so from the sticks, proper repeatible, hold and grip are required, not to mention scope alignment.
The .177 has the smoothest shot cycle, is the quietest (backyard shooting, anyone), least expensive to feed, and perversely, is the most rewarding when the shooter does everything right.
That includes lots of chrony work, checking every screw that moves when cocking/ firing, every session ( and there are a lot of them) and throwing away the first shot after refilling. My FX likes running @ 825 fps for accuracy with JSB 10.3's . The reg, using the crap stock gauge, is near 100 psi.
The higher I go beyond that fps, the more fliers I get. Do try a slower velocity (there is a too slow speed- FYI) and let us know?
You might want a turnkey gun to shoot while you fiddle with the Impact, so the frustration isn't as..frustrating? Seriously consider getting something like a Beeman P-17 that you just shoot, enjoy for what it is, and then go back to the bench to work on the FX. It may be a bit of a ship in the bottle at first, but you'll learn tons working on it!
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thank you for help and answers
from yesterday till today this thing took a 180
I cronoed to day and it read 662 FPS, so I adjusted and ended up with this on max setting
5 shots
avg energy 19.2 ft-lb
avg speed 915.3 FPS
min speed 911 FPS
max speed 918.6 FPS
consistency 7.5 FPS
STD deviation 2.4 FPS
i then turned it down to A setting on the power wheel and found out,that there is 2 different kind of JSB Heavy in 4.5mm 10.34gr :-( i will post pics and explain later. My 7 month son is calling for my attention!
ill post 3 pics of my latest groups at 22 yards 20 m for me and they are Fu..awesome!! In one of the pics there is a shot I pulled because of the heavy trigger. But no poop this thing shoots light now!! And if continues to shoot like this then I’m a really happy camper! Btw i pulled the grub set screw on the probe and gave it locktite.
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Glad to hear things are turning around for you. Are you able to shoot a little further out? 30, 50?
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@Bubblerboy64
Going for the pulsar would be a no brainer for me, especially if you wanted .177 (the .177 STX barrels are mostly crap)
I have a red wolf which is based of the pulsar and it outshoots (and will likely outlast) my crown by a long shot.
The electronic trigger is spot on (like clicking a mouse) very fast lock time, cocking lever just loads pellets so is nice and light, build quality seems to be great, magazines work well.
The only area the Crown is better is it's light weight and ability to swap caliber
Going for the pulsar would be a no brainer for me, especially if you wanted .177 (the .177 STX barrels are mostly crap)
I have a red wolf which is based of the pulsar and it outshoots (and will likely outlast) my crown by a long shot.
The electronic trigger is spot on (like clicking a mouse) very fast lock time, cocking lever just loads pellets so is nice and light, build quality seems to be great, magazines work well.
The only area the Crown is better is it's light weight and ability to swap caliber
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So in a thread where the OP has figured his problem out and is telling us he is happy with his 2200.00 airgun purchase, you are telling him he still made a mistake and should have bought what you bought because you think it's better? Wow.
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LOL so true. Happy you got your impact sorted OP, lots of people foaming at the mouth to poop on the first sniff theres something wrong with their new FX.
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No, All that testing took all my time, but I will try to get out tomorrow and see how it behaves at 30-45 yards and it all depends on pellets if I have more of the “old”batch
there are two different pellets in JSB 10.34 gr 4.5mm, the new one that the gun doesn’t like if you turn that around you will see that difference in how deep it is. The old style is the deepest I’ll post pics below, I really don’t hope that the they stop making the old ones because my Impact shoots like crap with them :-(
1 picture is the “old” style pellet
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Yeah, that is what I meant. If you were able to test further out, at another time. Meaning, if you had the room to do it in.
check out some other similar weight, but different branded pellets. They are made by JSB. Like Air Arms, Keiser? FX, etc. Most of them are made by JSB.
With luck they will be making those in the old mold.
check out some other similar weight, but different branded pellets. They are made by JSB. Like Air Arms, Keiser? FX, etc. Most of them are made by JSB.
With luck they will be making those in the old mold.
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I,m glad OP is happy with his rifle
but if you bothered to look it was a reply to bubblerboys question
but if you bothered to look it was a reply to bubblerboys question
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Ahh okay
45 yards is max I can shoot in my Backyard
and thanks for the tip I will look around for them ;-)
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Glem chally
Thanks
Yes it doesn’t help wenn people bad mouths the gun, it would be nicer with some help from them instead.
Well there is a lot of really nice people who has been really helpful and I really appreciate that! I haven’t answered every body because my English sucks so it takes some time answer and trying to spell everything right so people have a chance to understand what I’m writing.
but I read all the answers, so don’t think I’m a snob and don’t want to answer;-)
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Yes it doesn’t help wenn people bad mouths the gun, it would be nicer with some help from them instead.
Well there is a lot of really nice people who has been really helpful and I really appreciate that! I haven’t answered every body because my English sucks so it takes some time answer and trying to spell everything right so people have a chance to understand what I’m writing.
but I read all the answers, so don’t think I’m a snob and don’t want to answer;-)
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I tried to single load it today before I shoot the groups in the pics and there was no difference and that was at about 660fps. I didn’t try any speed between 660 and 900 FPS
i will try lowering the speed and see how it acts up
i think I’m going to get the hunting license, then I’m allowed to buy any cal I want and I would go for 22 that’s enough for the backyard. 25 and 30 is to big and gets expensive to shoot.
i didn’t want to tinker with the mags before I was sure that I wanted to keep the gun, but now I can fiddle a little with mags knowing it’s a keeper
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I will assume that is aimed at me
my reply was to bubblerboy, his question popped up at the bottom of the thread when i refreshed, and replied before i had seen your post.
and like it or not i was trying to be helpful, people were recommending all sorts like sanding the mag which would have made it unlikely for you to be able to return it, I,m glad you are happy with your rifle and wasn't trying to piss on your fireworks, I just don't think you should have to be fetling with a gun of that price right out of the box to get it to shoot, especially when you risk voiding your warranty
my reply was to bubblerboy, his question popped up at the bottom of the thread when i refreshed, and replied before i had seen your post.
and like it or not i was trying to be helpful, people were recommending all sorts like sanding the mag which would have made it unlikely for you to be able to return it, I,m glad you are happy with your rifle and wasn't trying to piss on your fireworks, I just don't think you should have to be fetling with a gun of that price right out of the box to get it to shoot, especially when you risk voiding your warranty
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