FX Impact owners

Just bought a 22 wildcat and I am loving it. I am now wanting to add a FX 25cal to my collection. Was wondering how the impact is working out for you guys. Was kind of waiting on them to be available and also Teds review. Would likely never change the barrel so that is not a big deal to me. Also concerned about all the adjustments if that is something that would be real useful for me. Then the extra cash. Also is the shroud useful. Guess what the question really is should I wait and go for the impact or just grab a wildcat in 25cal.

Jason
 
"yenniedn"Hey Jason,

Just took delivery on a black .22 Impact yesterday and have only played with it intermittenly over the last 24 hours but it looks like a winner (keeper). I posted a thread with my first impressions here:

http://airgunnation.dev/topic/my-last-5-months-dealing-with-pcp-addiction-and-22-fx-impact-first-impressions/

Will post more info once I get a chance to shoot it some more.

read that great info keep us posted. I am going to buy one of the two. Just need to decide on which one in 25cal. Looks like the impact may be a little while. Not really in a hurry still having a blast with my 22 wildcat. 
 
"Jasonintn"
"yenniedn"Hey Jason,

Just took delivery on a black .22 Impact yesterday and have only played with it intermittenly over the last 24 hours but it looks like a winner (keeper). I posted a thread with my first impressions here:

http://airgunnation.dev/topic/my-last-5-months-dealing-with-pcp-addiction-and-22-fx-impact-first-impressions/

Will post more info once I get a chance to shoot it some more.

read that great info keep us posted. I am going to buy one of the two. Just need to decide on which one in 25cal. Looks like the impact may be a little while. Not really in a hurry still having a blast with my 22 wildcat. 
For some reason, I've never been a fan of having the same rifle in multiple calibers. Maybe I'm just weird that way but I want some differentiation between each of my rifles based on what I need each one for. Of course the Impact blurs that line a bit since you can change the calibers so easily.

If you've got the .22 Wildcat and are enjoying that, you have the luxury of waiting for the supply of the Impact to increase and price to come down a bit. I think $1500 is a reasonable second-hand price for this rifle and I'd imagine we'll see them in that range by the middle of next year. Get the Impact in .25, you'll like it.
 
"Mark_Walt"I recently purchased a wildcat in .25 and when I talked to AOA on Friday they said that the wait period on any caliber/color impact could range from January to May. In other words they have no clue when and how many impacts they will be receiving. Stupid slow boat from Sweden.
Figured it would be a little while not in a hurry. Leaning toward the Impact. But the wildcat is still a option if it takes to long or two many problems show up on the Impact.
 
An MK2 for the Impact so soon after release is sure to annoy people. 

I don't know how I would feel about spending $1900 on the MK1 and then watch everyone else buy a superior Mk2 with all the problems fixed just a few months later. With the modular nature of that gun, I would hope that they would just release aftermarket upgrades to fix any issues.

According to Ted, FX only released a Bobcat Mk2 because he gave the Mk1 a bad review. This would mean that an Impact MK2 is not necessarily a given...
 
There is no MK2.

As with any new release there will always be a few small bugs to work out. When you look at the bigger picture; only a handful of users have had any issues at all. Some of which were human error. I think FX has done a fine job of listening to users & quickly rectifying anything that popped up.

My Impact hasn't had any problems, and is a blast to shoot. The rest of my guns just sit in the safe begging to be used.
 
Add me to the list Michael. I received a .30 cal and got exactly 23 shots through it before it started pissing air through the valve area. Add to that the barrel sits too far back when the set screw is tightened and the mag can't be inserted. Add to that the picatinny rail fail and add to that the fill port fail. This gun is not ready for prime time.. I can pretty much guarantee a lot more pissed Impact owners in the near future from various failures, but hey I hope I'm wrong. Now I have to deal with AOA's unreliable warranty service. Sometimes great, sometimes terrible. The one thing I feared buying this gun. Should have just waited, but didn't think it could be this bad.....
 
I can only report my experiences. It sure would be nice if some more owners chimed in. I heard thru the grapevine that there are several hundred Impacts in use already. But much like Airgun Nation (who has several thousand registered members, compared to 25,000+ individual viewers each month), a lot of people just read and don't participate. 
 
@Rimshot "Hmmm there are only a handful of impact owners as it is. Almost as many reviews now as owners prior to the the shipment making it to the states and never saw a bad review. Not till they made it into the hands of the owners are these issues showing up.So reviewers what gives"


I am not a reviewer nor do I have an Impact yet, but let me explain what I expect from the reviewers of new products.

First, what is a "bad review"? There is a difference between pointing out problems and recommendations for improvement vs. advising against buying the product. A bad review is advising against buying the product in its current form as it hits the market. If the reviewer can determine a systemic problem that prevents the product from working as intended, it's his/her duty to note that in an honest review. This serves well not only potential buyers but also the manufacturer because surely such systemic problems will be experienced later as the number of buyers increases. Even if the reviewer does not encounter any "show-stopper" issues they should point out problems and recommendations for improvement to the manufacturer that may benefit future buyers and also helps other early buyers to DIY solve them. This forum seems to work well in having reviewers, owners, and potential buyers interact to voice their issues that they find important. 

The reviewers do not have an easy job. They have to differentiate between a "lemon" or problems with an entire product line based on only one sample they were given. Thus you need experience to determine if the product is plagued with design, safety, quality or performance issues throughout the entire product line, or if it's limited to that single rifle. Also, as a reviewer, you cannot make too many mistakes in the role of an "expert" and you cannot "cover" for the manufacturer's errors or your credibility will be shot. So there is a lot at stake but in my opinion if the reviewer is doing an honest job they can serve the buyer and manufacturer equally well.

As far as initial issues with new product lines: there could always be one lemon amongst hundreds of perfect rifles because achieving "zero-defect"s not a realistic expectation unless you want your product costs to skyrocket. I expect problems with any new products and these are expected to be worked out with time. Some of these problems may be the result of improper assembly, shipping, etc, or issues that can only be discovered with prolonged use by a large population of users. It's critical for the manufacturer to take ownership of these early problems and resolve them for the satisfaction of their buyers, and this forum and some of the reviewers here serve as great conduits for that.

Just a side note: early buyers take risks. Look at the example of TESLA. Arguably the most awesome and innovative product that won numerous accolades from industry and customers alike, but they do too suffer occasional setbacks. One possible way the manufacturer can "reward" these early users for the risk they are taking is with a lower initial price or by throwing in with the rifle some free-bee products like extra magazines or a coupon for a future purchase.