Fx Impact or Fx Boss

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    johnp
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    I have a little dilemma. I was going to trade my FX boss in for a 30 caliber FX impact. I’ve been reading so many reviews on the impact and really like the gun but I like the more traditional rifle look of the boss, the impact looks like something a stormtrooper in Star Wars would carry around! Is the impact that much better than the boss that I should just get it and deal with not liking the look of the gun? What do you guys think thanks in advance.

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    Centercut
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    Look at EBR results in both Pro and Sportsman classes for the past 5 years for Boss/Bobcat. There’s your answer. Aside from physical differences and on the fly adjustability, there is no power or accuracy difference. 

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    Kitplanenut
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    I have both. Both great guns. The Boss is just to long for me to use comfortably anywhere besides the bench. For just my run around, everyday gun I shoot my Wildcat. It’s lighter then the Impact. The Impact wins at having that COOL factor, but once you get it set and tuned to where you want it chances are you won’t adjust it again. If you like adjusting, changing cal and experimenting it’s the gun for you. Sylvan

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    ashes5
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    Crown. All the adjustments are there and easier to get to. Plus you can get really nice stocks on it. IMO

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    Brian10956
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    You will soon be able to get 700mm barrels for the Impact which should get you better Accuracy and more shots per fill.

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    ShootistX
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    How do you figure a longer barrel will give better accuracy?
     

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    sonny
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    I had the same dilemma around xmas time with my bobcat and a new impact decided to keep the bobcat and get the impact. I love them both and glad i kept my bobcat too! I would say in your case the impact would be a great addition in maybe .25cal and a great woods walker. May the force be with you.

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    Brian10956
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    “ShootistX”How do you figure a longer barrel will give better accuracy?

     

    
its a fact if you had a long shot would you use a pistol or a rife where the main difference is barrel length
    From an article  i read

    The short answer: Yes, a longer gun barrel improves accuracy. Theoretical accuracy of handguns and rifles is driven by rifling, barrel length, and bullet mass.

        Rifling: When the bullet travels through the barrel, the rifling (helical grooves in the barrel) forces the bullet to spin by converting some of its forward kinetic energy to angular momentum. This gives the bullet gyroscopic stability. Remember, a gun without rifling is a musket – without spin, the bullet trajectory is unstable, like a ‘knuckle ball’.

        Barrel length: A longer barrel extends the time time interval where chamber pressure acts on the bullet’s mass. Therefore, a longer barrel increases the exit velocity of the bullet and the effective range of the bullet. Friction limits the allowable barrel length.

        Bullet mass: Increased bullet mass increases the bullets inertia (resistance to external forces). Therefore, the bullets trajectory is less effected by external forces such as cross-winds or contact with obstacles

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    Siscakidd
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    Just sold my Fx boss and purchased an Impact….so far I wish I kept the Boss,the impact is given my some headaches and I can’t get Fx USA service to respond to email or phone message,find this really frustrating I paid 2000 gs for a gun and it is one thing after another,will be going up for sale once I get it fixed

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    johnp
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    Yeah, I decided to keep the boss. I told the shop to go ahead and sell the impact. I will say though, I have a 25 Wildcat and I love it!
     since I got it I haven’t even touched my Royal 500. I like the look of the traditional rifle better than the Bullpup, but but man that Wildcat is so much fun and so easy to load. The only thing that I would change is make the magazine a little thicker so you can use predator pellets in it.

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    Siscakidd
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    I too have a .25 wildcat and love it!! But the .30 impact is a real let down for all the hype it had,maybe I got a bad one but the fact that I can’t get anyone to return an email or a phone call in 7days is really disheartening ,so sorry I let my Boss go,your making the right move. IMO

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    Brian10956
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    Where did you buy it, call them if you got it from an authorized dealer and their not responding let us know who they are so we know not to buy there in the future.

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    Siscakidd
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    I purchased the the gun from AOA and I called there and they said send it back on my dime and that I would have to pay to have it fixed …the gun is less then 2 months old and the barrel retention screw just won’t stay tight,it gets loose with out even firing a shot and that has caused some other issues,can’t get the gun to shoot any faster then 830fps …so I figured if it’s gonna need a fix that I have to pay for I would send it to Ernst and have him do the mods that he does to make the gun right , and I understand that they are busy but I run my own small business and I find it hard to believe that I can’t get a response in a weeks time

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    Brian10956
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    I saw a fix on that check it out look for barrel lock down washer oring video I middle 3/4 way down
    http://www.ernestrowe.com/fx-impact-x-barrel

    i thought that fx repair was now being done in The New NC office

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    Siscakidd
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    Yes… that is what I saw as well,and would like to get this mod done,but so far no luck

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    Hotbrass
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    I dont own an FX gun, BUT if I were in your shoes and looking from the outside-I would get rid of the BOSSs moderator and install a larger diameter and shorter one.
     

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    hawkeye69
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    Barrel length = Increased velocity and effective range yes, but increased accuracy no.

    Belief: a long barrel is required for accuracy when shooting at long distance.Fact: In no part of our testing was barrel length a determining factor in accuracy. At a distance of 100-540 yards, there was no discernible difference in accuracy between various barrel lengths. This performance translated over to unknown distance shooting with all barrel lengths at ranges out to 900 yards. At no point in the testing was a short barrel a hindrance once marksmanship fundamentals were observed and proper flight data was applied.

    This test obliterated what was previously thought to be fact. Not only was it determined that short barreled rifles are easily as accurate a those with long barrels…

    The Truth About Barrel Length, Muzzle Velocity and Accuracy

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    Brian10956
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    You can do tests and make them come out anyway you want if Barrel length was of no importance we would all have pistols with a 2 “ barrel. Military snipers would be shooting with something small they can throw away the 50 caliber Barrett and get a 5 pound rifle. 

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    hawkeye69
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    “Brian10956”You can do tests and make them come out anyway you want if Barrel length was of no importance we would all have pistols with a 2 “ barrel. Military snipers would be shooting with something small they can throw away the 50 caliber Barrett and get a 5 pound rifle. 

    As I understand it, less accuracy with shorter hand gun barrel lengths is mainly due to the short distance between the front and rear sights, thereby making it harder to aim accurately.

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    “hawkeye69”

    “Brian10956”You can do tests and make them come out anyway you want if Barrel length was of no importance we would all have pistols with a 2 “ barrel. Military snipers would be shooting with something small they can throw away the 50 caliber Barrett and get a 5 pound rifle. 

    As I understand it, less accuracy with shorter hand gun barrel lengths is mainly due to the short distance between the front and rear sights, thereby making it harder to aim accurately.

    
The distance between front and rear sights is definitely a factor. With Air rifles most of us are using Optics were that wouldn’t be an issue. In my experience its more dependent on the shooter following the  correct procedures than the hardware anyway. That’s why some of us can be more accurate with a pistol than others with a rifle.  I have a S&W 686 in 357 6” Barrel that can do 4-5” groups at 100 yards, when I load with 38 it goes down to 75 yards.
    back in time around the revolution they had barrel 6’ Long and they couldn’t hit a barn until they put rifling in the barrel. X

    in reguard to Barrel length and accuracy. If you have a short barrel rifle thats accurate at 300yds. A long barrel rifle of similar build won’t be any more accurate at that distance. But as distance increases the ballistics will favor the longer rifle and the shooter is less likely to make an error in planning there shot. I got into Air rifles as I like long distance Shooting but I was forced to travel 3.5 hours to find 1000 yd range with a Air rife 200 yards is the same thrill for me as 1000 with my 6.5 creedmore sniper rifle.

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