FX for precision target (and hunting); Daystate for hunting?

I watched a youtube video channel one day called tedsholdover.and was in awe watching this guy shooting shotgun shells at 100yrs and reviewing pellet guns and thought could this be true? A couple months later i had a .25cal fx bobcat. I hoped that I didn't spend a ton of money and get duped. To my amazement and delight the gun was as ted reviewed it. I zeroed and dialed in the scope and to attest to its accuracy my girlfriend who never shot any gun in her life put 11 shots in a group the size of a dime at 50 yards. I now own a impact for about a year and its scary accurate. Yes I'm convinced fx makes some world class guns.

Depends on the range you are shooting,

Target shooting at 60 yards and under I would be looking at Steyr, Feinwerkbau,RAW or Anschutz in .177



As for FX vs Daystate, Owning both a Wolverine and a Crown I found myself rather underwhelmed by the Crown, It feels like to meet demand, Quality control has been pretty poor of late. Regulator issues are common and the .177 x barrels are not good.

With your daystates I think .177 and .25HP would have been better choices accuracy wise, The .177 for closer range and the .25 for long range. The 22HP limits you to heavy pellets

Just my opinion though

I will probably regret this but..., I‘ve alluded to this in another post, I personally feel EBR is just a promotional tool for FX & now DAYSTATE!, and that’s fine,



I totally agree and as you say nothing wrong with that!

I love the videos, the community that produce them, Matt, Giles, AEAC, Ted, Tomcat, Jared etc. etc are all very refined, professional hosts, excellent camera operators that really know how to make interesting, funny, informative and dare I say it exciting YouTube material!

Great selling tools also I fully agree, I thought Matt VS Fred was one of the best clips ever!

Personally I wish there was more of it, promotion, publicity, sponsorship etc. etc. thats what gets people making stuff for us to buy (my favourite bit).

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As far as the Crown, I have finally got my .22 shooting really well and more importantly consistently really well, I just cant understand why it didn't do that out of the box and I had to tinker so much with it.

Having said that maybe a RW that just shoots out of the box is getting a bit boring!

I’ve owned several FX rifles dating back to when the T12 whisper was first released. I’ve owned several Daystate rifles dating back to when the Air Ranger was first released. After several thousand pellets through different models by each manufacturer I prefer Daystate. Recently I was lured into the marketing and hype surrounding the Impact and the Crown. I owned the Impact for around 2 weeks and the crown for only a couple months. The Impact developed a leak and had several other lssues I was unhappy with. The Crown was over-hyped and fragile, I’ll leave it at that. Those were the last experiences I had with FX. I still own a couple Daystate rifles which have tens of thousands of pellets through them and never had an issue. 

FX produces some nice stuff, without a doubt. I personally don’t feel like it’s as nice as what Daystate and some other manufacturers produce in terms of the overall package ( reliability, accuracy, features, fit / finish, price point.... etc). FX relies on marketing their newest “advances” to boost sales and they do a good job of it. Daystate has always opted towards mechanical simplicity until recently. Even their electronic guns are a fairly simple and smart design. The benefit to this is their guns come tuned and shooting very well for 99.9% of their market. You buy a Daystate gun, you take it out of the box, mount your scope and shoot piss out of it! The new FX guns like the Crown and Impact come shooting pretty good out of the box as well, but with all those darned buttons, knobs, doo-dads and you tube videos showing people how to be airgun tuners, things frequently go wrong. All that stuff is just not necessary for the average high end air gunner. It would be interesting to see the percentage of impacts and Crowns out there that have had to have repairs.

Off my soap box now... I say all that to say this... neither Daystate or FX or any of the other high end manufacturers are perfect, they each have their strengths and weaknesses. It’s not possible to make a generalization about one brand and say, “xxx brand is more accurate and better for target shooting, and xxx brand is better at this.” A lot of this comes down to personal preference and experience. 



Lets combine all all the positive attributes from RAW, WAR, Taipan, BSA, Daystate, FX, Edgun, etc. and build the perfect airgun!

To get erratic groups is why we buy a .22 over a .177 LOL!

As far as the Crown, I have finally got my .22 shooting really well and more importantly consistently really well, I just cant understand why it didn't do that out of the box and I had to tinker so much with it.

Having said that maybe a RW that just shoots out of the box is getting a bit boring!

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Haha! Nothing like having some erratic groups to keep boredom from setting in!

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and replace it with depression, frustration and anxiety 

I will ask you a question would you get a good looking expensive gun for Hunting when you knock around and abuse the gun even in daytime or night vision operation when even more and worse thing can and will happen?

precision target define that...do you mean for showing off?



Match grade barrels from different manufacturers have very similar performances these days, if you have a broken one let’s discount that situation alright.

Precision wise you should have the same high requirements to be ethical really. So it does not matter money talks only. If you are rich buy two, get a pair so you have a backup.



i would get a robust, reliable model/make TOOL not too expensive for hunting, for benchrest or for display it is up to you really probably you are OK with the manufacturers/choices of your object of desire.

I take my Redwolf in the walnut stock out in the field, then look at the one with the laminate stock on the table!

I owned a Daystate Regal XL in .22 for a time and was arguably one of the most accurate guns I've owned. Was a great field gun but too pretty for my taste as I was afraid to take it out. But it was nothing short of precision.

Never owned an FX and doubt I will so can't comment on that. 

Everything I own sees field use regardless of what it costs. There’s a difference between putting a nice piece to work and abusing the crap out of it for no reason. Aesthetics are generally second or third to reliability and performance. I do know several people who own high end guns only to use them as BBQ conversation pieces or range queens and also see nothing wrong with that. 

a good gun that you feel very confident in and lots of practice seems to be the best answer to me. must fit the shooter and of course be accurate then up to the shooter to do his part my fx and my daystates where all accurate but some fit better than others in my hands

Neither Daystate nor FX exactly rule most type of competitions, but they are both seen, and occasionally do very well. I have no experience with FX. My Daystate Regal in .22 is a great all-around field and informal target rifle. I have two RAW rifles, and one Steyr that are consistently extremely accurate. The RAW rifles are tanks, big, durable parts that should last forever. FX aficionados will probably call the RAW old, boring technology, maybe so.....but it works, and keeps on working.