FX, Daystate, Airgun Technology, Edgun, Kalibr

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Emu

Emu

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Well,

These are must of the top reliable and accurate air rifles.

All of them will be top quality and more accurate than yourself.

What will make the difference to choose one or the other?

I.- The basics:

1.- shape

a) bullpup

b) clasic rifle

c) total lenght

2.- Shots per fill

it will depend of the use you want to give to your rifle.

3.- Weight

It will depend on the use and the plans for carring it on your hands/shoulders

4.- Comfortable to shoulder.

You ought to be able to have a face possition that quickly and naturally be able to have the full circle of the scope to shoot.

II.- The shooting experience.

Here it is the real pleasure.

Shooting different rifles implies having different experiences. It is not the same "feeling" shooting any of the above top rifles:

The smoothness of the FX rifles is something to remember.

Shooting with a Daystate make you recognize it is a pleassure and a priviledge.

Shooting with an Airgun Technology makes you feel you have a really good made rifle on your hands.

III.- Now the economical part of my comment.

We all have (at least by design) two lengs, two arms, two hands, two feet, ten fingers and ten toes. But we all are different: some of us like cheese, wine and museums and some others rather enjoy beer and nachos. I am unable, based on the taste, to justify the payment of high priced wine, for example.

If you are not able to "feel" the difference among shooting diverse rifles, do not waste your money. Just buy the cheapest rifle that shoots accurately and satisfies you.






 
very broad post I will see if I can contribute. as for the different high end guns. while all perform well they are grouped sort of as follows

FX- modularity , adjustability

edgun , kalibrgun , taipan , AGT - Rugged , tough , consistent

daystate- I never used one , but hear it has a "cadillac" smooth overall feel. 

While the FX Impact is a real piece of work , as with daystate , they are significantly costlier then the Czech-Russian guns , The FX wildcat and dreamline series are comparable , and are lighter , but don't feel as durable as the others. something to consider.

then there are the more budget friendly models- AV avenger , Umarex gauntlet , BSA scorpion , Hatsan , Kral. while they can improve with tinkering , all are VERY serviceable in their function and not to be sneered at. so no, no one should feel any stigma being limited on any potential choices of air gun based on brand or price. They all get the pellet/slug there when necessary. 

Not sure where you where going with your OP. will check back tomorrow for other responses and comments.
 
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Serviceability is a really big consideration for me, which leaves out the electronic guns completely.
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I just bought a Daystate Renegade HP in .30 Cal( it only has electronic trigger and everything else mechanical). I had never shot a rifle with nothing electronic.

The electronic trigger IS GOOD!

Also I found an important difference in regard of any other airgun: You can always have during a hunt (and for years) a pellet ready to fly. There´s no spring that could loose tension power.

Taking the due caution, it can be considered within the pros. 
 
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Serviceability is a really big consideration for me, which leaves out the electronic guns completely.
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I just bought a Daystate Renegade HP in .30 Cal( it only has electronic trigger and everything else mechanical). I had never shot a rifle with nothing electronic.

The electronic trigger IS GOOD!

Also I found an important difference in regard of any other airgun: You can always have during a hunt (and for years) a pellet ready to fly. There´s no spring that could loose tension power.

Taking the due caution, it can be considered within the pros.
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I own a Renegade and also a Pulsar HP. The Renegade is all mechanical except for the trigger so I can work on it. But the Pulsar being all electronic, makes servicing next to impossible for the average owner. When there's an issue I'm at a complete loss except for checking the batteries or looking for loose connections.

By the way... If you just bought the Renegade I recommend that you replace the battery with a good name brand one.The battery that came in mine only lasted a couple of weeks.
 
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Serviceability is a really big consideration for me, which leaves out the electronic guns completely.
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I just bought a Daystate Renegade HP in .30 Cal( it only has electronic trigger and everything else mechanical). I had never shot a rifle with nothing electronic.

The electronic trigger IS GOOD!

Also I found an important difference in regard of any other airgun: You can always have during a hunt (and for years) a pellet ready to fly. There´s no spring that could loose tension power.

Taking the due caution, it can be considered within the pros.
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I own a Renegade and also a Pulsar HP. The Renegade is all mechanical except for the trigger so I can work on it. But the Pulsar being all electronic, makes servicing next to impossible for the average owner. When there's an issue I'm at a complete loss except for checking the batteries or looking for loose connections.

By the way... If you just bought the Renegade I recommend that you replace the battery with a good name brand one.The battery that came in mine only lasted a couple of weeks.
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Thanks, I´ll do!
 
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Serviceability is a really big consideration for me, which leaves out the electronic guns completely.
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I haven’t worked with many other Airgun customer services but FX has easily accessible technicians that really for me Atleast taken the time to help me diagnose a problem And figuring out as many solutions or trouble shooting before having to send a gun to be worked on. They made me feel like that was my absolute last final Avenue to take when fixing my gun and it was we actually got my gun back up and running after an hour or so on the phone. Then I tuned my impact mk 2 emailed them how it was going and I think Scott emailed me back and told me yeah that’s where it should be for what you want. I luckily haven’t had to send in a gun to be fixed yet (I’m sort of rough on my guns so I have been fully prepared to have to send it in eventually haha)
 
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I also replaced the batteries in my Renegade and my Pulsar. But not because the battery life.

I'd really hate to have a common alkaline leak all over my expensive gun (or other items)..!

While it seems that the longevity is slightly less (claims to be longer !) than with the alkaline, the lithium ( Energizer lithium) battery has gone into all of my high end tools...and my two Daystate guns. Zero leakage in the last couple of years of using them, vs. past years with alkaline batteries leaking all over semi-expensive flashlights and TV remotes. My high end tools, I always would remove the batteries to make sure that I didn't loose a tool (micrometers, ultrasonic thickness gauge, etc.).



Mike
 
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Well I've owned 4 out of the 5 brands listed. 

FX (Ranchero and incoming Wildcat MkIII)

Daystate (Red Wolf)

Edgun (R5 .30 Standard and Super Long, Leshiy Classic, Leshiy 2, Veles)

Kalibr (Ocelot, Cricket Carbine, Cricket II)

I've enjoyed all for different reasons - feel, trigger, weight, hold, power, number of shots, etc. I'm sure I would not be unhappy with any rifle from these companies and probably any AGT would be solid as well. 
 
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I also replaced the batteries in my Renegade and my Pulsar. But not because the battery life.

I'd really hate to have a common alkaline leak all over my expensive gun (or other items)..!

While it seems that the longevity is slightly less (claims to be longer !) than with the alkaline, the lithium ( Energizer lithium) battery has gone into all of my high end tools...and my two Daystate guns. Zero leakage in the last couple of years of using them, vs. past years with alkaline batteries leaking all over semi-expensive flashlights and TV remotes. My high end tools, I always would remove the batteries to make sure that I didn't loose a tool (micrometers, ultrasonic thickness gauge, etc.).



Mike
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I will look for them.

No one wants to have acid batteries leaks over expensive rifles.




 
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very broad post I will see if I can contribute. as for the different high end guns. while all perform well they are grouped sort of as follows

FX- modularity , adjustability

edgun , kalibrgun , taipan , AGT - Rugged , tough , consistent

daystate- I never used one , but hear it has a "cadillac" smooth overall feel. 

While the FX Impact is a real piece of work , as with daystate , they are significantly costlier then the Czech-Russian guns , The FX wildcat and dreamline series are comparable , and are lighter , but don't feel as durable as the others. something to consider.

then there are the more budget friendly models- AV avenger , Umarex gauntlet , BSA scorpion , Hatsan , Kral. while they can improve with tinkering , all are VERY serviceable in their function and not to be sneered at. so no, no one should feel any stigma being limited on any potential choices of air gun based on brand or price. They all get the pellet/slug there when necessary. 

Not sure where you where going with your OP. will check back tomorrow for other responses and comments.
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I have never shot a Hatsan nor a Kral.

But what I can assure is that some Evanix and JKhan PCP's with very small changes can easily compete with the effectiveness of top PCP's, investing half or a third of the price of top ones. They will effectively take the critters you could shoot at.

I do not know where Evanix and JKhan are now, Pyramydair do not sell Evanix anymore nor RLAirgins the JKHan's, but they should come back to the market. They have excellent quality and performance at afordable price.

The only change needed for those rifles is to order a Huma regulator and once installed you have a super rifle in your hands.

So, depending on the proportionals of each one, buying and affordable reliable and accurate not top rifle could be a really smart choice.


 
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