FX Crown vs FX Dreamline

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    gapa16
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    Hi guys, I am from Chile and this is my first post. I am quite new to the pcp world, my first pcp air rifle was an artemis PR900 in .22 which I bought a few months ago and I really love the sport and the hunting with it, however I know this is a very non quality air gun therefore why I would love to upgrade the rifle, which is the reason why I came to you…

    I am thinking in going big about it, and I am in the middle of a big decision, I am looking for to buy either a FX Crown in .25 ( I would love to have those 45 foot pounds and the hight shoot count) or a FX Dreamline Lite in .22 (good enought power with decent shoot counts). The reason why I am thinking in this guns is because I would like to have some high quality rifle which last a lifetime. I am aware that the Crown is better than the Dreamline, but is it really worth it the extra money, considering that bouth of them have the STX barrel and the same adjustability ? and also considering that the most probable air system I am would be using is a hand pump so the dreamline will require less effort.  What are your thoughts about it ? I would love to hear some feedback from you guys so I can make a good decision.

    If you were me and you use your air rifle for some target shooting at 50 yards and hunting rabbits with relativity high wind scenarios , what would you buy ? the crown or the dreamline?

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    Bob_O
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    If you're hand pumping only, the DL would be the obvious choice.  Smaller air cylinder and lower fill pressure.

    The crown has a significantly larger air volume and higher pressure.  It would be a royal pain to try and fill that.

    The Crown platform will make more power than the DL, but it may not be necessary for your needs.

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    edosan
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    Hola Chileno! ;)

    IMO The Crown…The dreamline sounds good but, is too new and with that new problems probably, beside for Rabbits in high wind is better to shoot heavier pellets, and  with that more air, the crown sounds good…hand pump is not recommended for either (forget about the crown and hand pump…you will do it once or twice and no more probably) … if money is an issue, get the dreamline and buy a compresor (YongHeng is good) and a SCBA bottle (all will cost almost the same than the crown)… you will regret it later if you rely on a hand pump for those airguns.

    Either choice is good, suerte!

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    douger
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    hand pumping the crown would take all the fun out of it im not sure of the dreamlines air cc but if those are your 2 choices the dreamline for sure 

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    Bob_O
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    I hand pumped my Streamline for months.  Not fun but you can get by easily with that.  Going from reg cutoff to full fill will be about 150+ pumps on the DL.

    The easier it is to fill, the more shooting you will do.  So when I got a tank, I easily doubled the amount of shooting I did.  Now with my compressor, I never worry about air.

     

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    edosan
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    My first AG was a Mrod Marauder…fill it about twice with a hand pump and never again! Good exercise tho! you can skip the gym! :D

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    Bajahunter
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    I used to fill a Gamo Urban (125 cc) damn bro… it sucks. My friend and I took turns to fill his 500cc Sumatra til 3000 psi… after pumping that much, you are so tired that your accuracy won't come back til the next day.

     

    Yo tenia un gamo urban, su reserva es de 125cc… era horrible llenarlo. Tambien llenabamos el sumatra de mi amigo, su reserva es de 500cc y teniamos que turnarnos para poder llenarlo a 3,000 psi. La verdad quedas tan cansado que no puedes ni tirar agusto. Olvidate de llenarlo 3-4 veces el mismo dia. Si lo haciamos pero era horrible, sin la tecnica apropiada te duele mucho la espalda.

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    Shinyknight
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    Crown is the better choice. More power and more shot count. But also way more expensive. I went with the Impact cause more compact. In your case depend on the money. Can you afford a crown and a compressor or CF tank? Cause you gonna need it. The dreamline you can easily fill with a hand pump. Hand pump on eBay is only $40 free shipping. Don't go buying $170-200 on those Benjamin hand pump and hill mk4 pump. Ain't worth the price when you can get cheap Chinese hand pump for $40 and does the same job. 

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    gapa16
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    Thanks for the answer friends, I know that using a hand pump is not ideal for this kind of rifle, but its what i have right now.  

    The idea of buying the crown over the dreamline considering the budget (about $2000-2500) is because later I think it will be easier to buy a air tank and a compressor than selling the dreamline and buying the crown on a second purchase. 

    What other nono bullpup pcp air rifle would you consider in the $1000-1500 price range, if the requirements would be to have al least 30 fpe in .22 (or +40 in .25) with a high shot count (+70), and a similar quality of FX guns ? 

     

     

     

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    stitch
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    Hi Chilean Shooter!       I too am fairly recent to this sport, and have gone insane over it!  I have several thousand dollars in guns and equipment now, and have so much fun, it should probably be illegal!

    I presently own two Kral puncher breakers and although moderate in price, they are tremendously accurate and a joy to shoot/hunt with.  I also own several Diana PCP Bandit pistols, and while not as accurate, they are a blast to shoot, and have many features even though they cost very little.  I also have a Gamo Tc35 in .35 caliber, and this gun will knock the tracks off a tank!  It is a single shot, but is fun and easy to shoot.

    My most recent purchase is an FX DreamLite in .22 caliber.  I wanted a regulated gun, and didn't feel the price of a Crown was warranted, although they truly are top-of-the-line in many senses of the word. Very much equal to or even surpassing the English "best" guns. which are extremely high quality as well.  The accuracy of my FX is absolutely outstanding! From the very first time shooting it, when setting the scope, one-hole full magazine groups were the norm, even to the point of becoming somewhat boring.  This initial shooting was at very close range, and I have not had time to set the sights for long range shooting, but I have no doubt this effort will be equally simple and easy.  I personally and at this point, have no need for all of the adjustable features of this gun, but I do look forward to purchasing different stocks for it, as they come available.

    At any rate, I hunt and target shoot with my guns, and the pieces I mentioned above more than serve those purposes.  I had studied videos, personal remarks and scientific reviews of the guns you mentioned, and I find I am perfectly served as I am currently armed.  I have no doubt that either gun would amaze you with its quality and accuracy, I just would probably have a stroke if I ever got a scratch or dent on the stock of a Crown, or English "bestie"!

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    I forgot to mention that I have both a high-pressure compressor, and an English made hand pump.  I top my portable tank off with the compressor, and then use the handpump to top off the individual guns.  The Krals and Dianas I have fill to 2900 lbs, so my portable tank handles those guns, and then I top off my Gamo and my FX with the handpump – very simple and effective.  When you purchase a compressor, make sure it is rated for 4,500 pounds so you will be able to fill your spare SCBA tank.  The one I purchased was a Model 4500, but it only pressurizes to 3,000psi.  

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    edosan

    My first AG was a Mrod Marauder…fill it about twice with a hand pump and never again! Good exercise tho! you can skip the gym! :D

    LOL.  My first PCP was a Condor and I pumped it once, sold the pump and bought SCBA tanks.

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    UPDATE: 

    Hi guys ! thanks for all your insight, unfortunatelly i had some issues with the kral regarding the weight while i was hunting, so i sold it and bought an Artemis P15 before the big upgrade to the FX´s, and now that i have tried the bullpup system there is no going back from it, the P15 surprise me, lightweight powerfull and decent accurate gun but im still feeling the itchy of getting a more quality airgun so now my options are either the Crown Continuum using mainly the 380mm barrel or the Dreampup both in .25. Has someone compare both of the guns ? or have other suggestions thinking in a regulated Bullpup rifle with +50 Shots per fill, and +45 FPE in .25  within the FX´s price range?

    Thanks,

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    gapa16

    UPDATE: 

    Hi guys ! thanks for all your insight, unfortunatelly i had some issues with the kral regarding the weight while i was hunting, so i sold it and bought an Artemis P15 before the big upgrade to the FX´s, and now that i have tried the bullpup system there is no going back from it, the P15 surprise me, lightweight powerfull and decent accurate gun but im still feeling the itchy of getting a more quality airgun so now my options are either the Crown Continuum using mainly the 380mm barrel or the Dreampup both in .25. Has someone compare both of the guns ? or have other suggestions thinking in a regulated Bullpup rifle with +50 Shots per fill, and +45 FPE in .25  within the FX´s price range?

    Thanks,

    I forget to mention that now im using an SCUBA tank to fill my guns, so that will no longer be an issue…

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    I have owned a  DL classic for about 5 months and am very satisfied with it, and have had no problems.   The Crown is a fine rifle too, but judging from the posts on this and other forums, the Crown has had quite a few problems,  although not serious.  For your application,  the DL should serve you well.  Its lighter and more compact-good for carrying in the field.  Shot count for me in 22 is 45 before falling off the regulator.  The Crown VP is attractively priced at $1399 which isn't too much more.  

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    Long_Gun_Dallas
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    For handpumping reasons alone, I would not get a big bottle gun. 

    That said, I do have a 22 caliber crown.  For most game 16fpe is good.  But mine is also tuned to 62fpe with 36gr slugs. (and goes higher)  The 22 will make plenty of power and be cheaper to shoot. 

     

    FYI  if you are filling from a scba tank, the crown is worth every penny.  You will not regret it.  In 22 at 16 fpe my shot count is truly stupid.  Likely around 300 or so.  For 0-40yards 16fpe is good for squirrel, fowl. Pellet tune on 380mm barrel goes up to 38fpe if I need.  

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    bubblerboy64
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    How about the royal ?

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    gapa16
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    For handpumping reasons alone, I would not get a big bottle gun. 

    That said, I do have a 22 caliber crown.  For most game 16fpe is good.  But mine is also tuned to 62fpe with 36gr slugs. (and goes higher)  The 22 will make plenty of power and be cheaper to shoot. 

     

    FYI  if you are filling from a scba tank, the crown is worth every penny.  You will not regret it.  In 22 at 16 fpe my shot count is truly stupid.  Likely around 300 or so.  For 0-40yards 16fpe is good for squirrel, fowl. Pellet tune on 380mm barrel goes up to 38fpe if I need.  

    how is the shot count with the 380 barrel at 30fpe in .22 ? the main reason why i would be switching to .25 is the more stable trayectory and the better response to the wind, but if I could get over 35 fpe in .22 with that smaller barrel I would reconsider it , the .22 ammo is cheaper and its better supply in my country 

    how does slugs behave out of the 700 barrel ? I would like to try them for shooting over 100 yds, hunting rabbits and competition

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    One very accurate, reliable gun that should be considered in addition to the Crown and Dreamline is the Streamline, especially in .22 caliber. If all you are going to be doing is shooting the 15.89 or 18.1 JSB pellets at up to 100 yards, its the perfect inexpensive Airgun, and just as accurate as the other two. Very simple, easy to work on, 3 step power adjust, lightweight…  You can pick one up used in the $700 range, even with a nice walnut or laminate stock. I bought one a couple of weeks prior to EBR, and re-sealed the gun (I do this with all used guns I buy), then JB Bore Paste polished the barrel, mounted a 6-24x scope, shot 3 shots over the chrony (865 FPS with 18.1 JSB Heavy), and set it aside. The week after EBR I shot the gun for the first time at our monthly 25M benchrest match, and scored a 731 in swirling breezy conditions.  So if you're not getting into slugs, or trying to shoot greater than 100 yards, this is a very good FX option…

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    I used hand pump for more than a year. Using it for small or large bottle is not important that much but power is game changer. for 40 joules each shot need's two pumps but for 90 joules each shot need's more than five. Also if like me there is no one to fill scba tank for you higher power will make trouble too.

    I'v got some FX's Guns and they were pretty accurate but they need repairing more often, specially if regulator adjustment could be done in high pressure.

    I would suggest DL because it has all crown features plus depends on need you can get more than one stock for it. I had bobcat and shot count wasn't kind of a big deal.

    But If you want to buy crown I would suggest to push you limit and buy Daystate Redwolf. No regulator and all of it's problem, no more hammer spring tension adjustment, anti double loading, polygonal barrel and etc. 

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