FX Crown .22 or .25 ?

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    Bob_O
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    Thanks a TON guys,

    Am I seeing the overall length of the .22 at 38.5" and the .25 at 43" correctly?

    Yes, the Crown 22 with 500mm barrel is 38" long.  With 600mm barrel it is the same length as the 25 caliber (600mm barrel).

    If you have any idea of shooting slugs, might try to get the 600mm barrel option, that way all you need is a 600mm Slug-X liner to swap with the pellet liner that will come with the rifle.

    Tough decisions.

    Just so you know, if you throw a suppressor on a 600mm Crown it is fairly long.  I run a Sumo on mine and it's long.

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    Hi Bob O,

    Gosh…. I'm thinking the .25 for starters then if I really want to shoot .22 later on I'll just buy the barrel upgrade kit. I'm new to air gunning but so far loving it. As I am understanding calibers in these FX Crowns, the .25 is more accurate down range and with greater power?

     

    Thanks 

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    Bob_O
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    In the Crown you could make 55fpe easy in stock form with 25 caliber.  43fpe is what you can make in 22 caliber Crown with 600mm barrel.

    Both are accurate.  The WC 25 MKII I had shot 1 1/8" group at 100yds last summer with 25.4gr and 33.95gr pellets.  

    I shot 1" group from the Crown 22 using 18gr pellets and 500mm X pellet liner (A). 38fpe I think it was.

    I just shot a 0.8" group yesterday with 24gr slugs in 600mm Slug-X liner, 24gr, 43fpe.

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    steve-l
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    The pellet noise can be an issue, not the gun. When the .25 pellet strikes the target, the slapping sound is very loud

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    bubblerboy64
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    steve-l

    The pellet noise can be an issue, not the gun. When the .25 pellet strikes the target, the slapping sound is very loud

    That’s velocity and pellet weight.  Heavy pellets in 22 nearly identical to med weight in 25.    I have a cricket in 25 and it hits hard. My brocock 22 can be adjusted for power but on high it sounds just like the cricket hitting a metal target at 20 yards .  

    I think there is very little advantage of the 25 right now.  That may change with slugs and barrel advancement.   

    If you push the 25 to it’s limits you may as well shoot a 22 rim fire.   

    I think the 22 is more versatile and does everything most of us need to do with an air rifle. Exceptions of course.  

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    Well…..this thread is showing the Crowns true colors…..I guess it doesn't matter which caliber I get because I can swap out the barrels

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    STO
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    So here is my contradictory and probably unwelcome 2c: 

    What are you going to do with the rifle? Is the name of the game punching paper? Hunting? A little of both? How much does silence matter to you? 

    Because of the unusual way the airgun equivalent of load development works, there was a real charge up the calibers to get to .30. Now there is a bit of a walk back down as we see people competing with diablo pellets primarily in .22 and .25. So really, between the two, there isn't technically a "wrong" choice. 

    My opinion is that, for target shooting, .22 is the better option. The pellets are cheaper, you get more shots per fill, and it is every bit as accurate as the .25. Part of the game when target shooting, particularly with an air rifle when you could be using a firearm, is low cost fun and learning to read weather conditions. People are quick to say .25s are better at fighting wind, but A) is that what you actually want and B) if that is what you want, is the .25 the best choice? I'd argue .22 slugs are better at fighting wind than .25 pellets, but that if fighting wind were your game, a centerfire rifle will do you even better…… which is why people walk those targets out further to challenge themselves and the power/caliber climb continues. Thus, for me anyway, target shooting with a .22 caliber pellet is about embracing the conditions and learning about them, rather than an all out war against them. Additionally, if targets is your primary use, with .25s you get about 25% fewer shots per fill, and the pellets cost about 25% more. Neither of those are world-ending, but if you're going on a woods walk it is that many fewer stumps you can thump. 

    For hunting, there is a bit of a split. .25 caliber pellets are well received, proven, and available. You want to punch critters, while .22 will do the job, there is no denying that .25 caliber pellets have more kinetic energy….. BUT, slugs in .22 seem to be the new hotness and have better ballistics and appear to have better wind-fighting properties too. They are also, in my opinion, comically expensive. I can buy factory new centerfire 5.56 ammunition for about what a certain very prominent slug maker wants for their .22 caliber slugs. And quite frankly that just frosts my cake, so I'll wait until the bigger manufacturers get on board and start making slugs at more reasonable prices or make my own. *shrug* 

    The big advantage to the Crown, as so many have already stated, is that you can easily change calibers later. Regarding the 500 vs 600mm barrel length, take a quick gander at a ruler and look at just how wide 100mm is. It is less than the width of my fist. You're not going to gain or lose that much power or length by picking one over the other. In a lot of ways, the Crown and Impact are very comparable, however the Impact has a lot more barrel length options. Take a look at this chart:
    https://utahairguns.com/fximpact

    Again you're looking at a 10mm barrel length difference, in this case 600 vs. 700mm. You can see the barrel length difference in .25 and .30 costs you about 5-10fps and maybe 5 shots. Not exactly going to rock your world. 

    I hope this helps you make your decision. At the end of the day I wouldn't sweat it too much. I ended up with a .22 caliber Crown with a 500mm barrel, and I get about 890fps with JSB 18.13s, 100 shots per fil, and with a little luck and skill I'll put ten shots at 100 yards into a sub MOA group. At 200 yards I'll have a play, even on blustery days, with the little 4" gong. On calm days at 200 I'll chase after the 2" bullseye gong. And somewhere in the middle of all that I'll dispatch a few rodents, often through NV mounted on my scope. I've not wounded one yet. 

     

    Hope that helps. :) 

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