FX Bobcat safety question...

I personally would be rather disappointed if I were you after what you are going through after receiving your gun back from FX for service.

Rather than have to deal with it myself I would simply just send it back for a redo. That is just totally unacceptable!

You sending it in anyway for a redo and Huma reg upgrade correct? Why even bother to mess with it yourself?

I wouldn't want to give them any reason for denying a redo. It would have been already packed in its box with a

label ready to send first thing on Monday... YESTERDAY...

CA

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My gun was not performing the way it used to, so I decided to send it to FX USA and have them check it out. At that point I thought about getting the HUMA reg and have them install it, since they are taking the gun apart anyway. However, the reg was no where in stock, and I did not want to wait for it to come from Europe, so I decided to just send in the Bobcat and have them do the maintenance only. So I did.

For "some" reason it took them longer to work on it than they said it would. I believe it was 2 - 2 1/2 weeks. Which was fine with me.

I got the gun back including a piece of card board that had some groups on it. 900fps at 30 yards (Maybe it was 25 yards? Anyway). The groups looked great. I then started to install and setup my scope. While doing so, I noticed that a pretty big dent in the stock was gone!? Hmm, how is that possible!? Anyway, I was in the middle of setting up my scope and I decided to investigate that later. Fair enough, while I was setting up the scope, the gun started to move "funny" and BAM, fell right of the bi-pod!!! Luckily, not far. Just on the table. I was like, WTF just happened!?

It turns out that the picatinny rail had come off! What? Seriously? I was speechless. I installed that rail myself and I know there was not way it would just fall off. Well, as I look closer, I realize that those screws used to screw it on to the stock, are not the same ones I used. As a matter of fact, the way it was mounted was not the same!?

So I call FX USA and ask them what was going on. Newman told me that he "forgot" to mention that some technician had dropped my stock and broke it, so they gave me a new one. He said that only the stock was dropped and not the entire gun. Only the stock, and it broke? I call BS. The stock is not going to break when you drop it. Well, what was I supposed to do? Ask for a new gun. You tell me.

Anywho. While I had them one the phone I also told them about the safety not working. Ernest told me how to fix it. And I did. I know know that I did fix it so it at least engages, but like my first post in this thread explains, it does not function they way it is supposed to. Well, now the safety was working, but the trigger was not!? I took the gun apart again and saw that the push rod from the trigger is not attached to that little piece of rod that triggers the shot. Not sure how to explain it. The little rod with the ball-end was bend out of the way so the push-rod from the trigger would not stay in it. I had bend it back and now it works. The trigger that is.

Wow. What a pain in a$$, especially considering that I am not super confident working on these guns and I just paid them to do it for me.

Now. I then shot the gun using the same pellets they used but I was "only" getting 860 fps, which was odd!? Does it have anything to do with me being at 2200 meters? Not sure. Again. No big deal. In retrospective though, I am thinking that it this might have been the beginning of the end. You know, the reason why my gun suddenly lost 100 fps on full power!? I don't know?

I did not really wanted to bring this up as I have not talked to them about the safety issue and the loss in power yet. I do not want to "bad-mouth" them, you know. But that is what happened.

I always say, sh*t happens, but it is not about what happened, rather then how it is addressed. Same here. I call them Monday and see what they say.

Thanks,

Kmd

Have to agree with coldair. Do understand fixing it ( but still not like it was, if it ever was supposed to work that way) yourself to save time but honestly if NOT completly/correctly repaired I would want the $ back.

Perhaps they should adopt a service model like Crosman, any issue just send it back and have a new one in your hands w/in 7 days. 



John

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I did not know Crosman does that... Anyhow, thanks for the input.

Kmd

I would like to point out, that I am always trying to make things work out. If I can fix something myself, and not have to go through the trouble of packing it up, creating a bunch of expense for shipping, waiting for it to come back and all that kind of stuff, I just do it myself. Also keep in mind that we are not talking about a Patek Philippe watch that I now need to open and try to fix, ha ha. It is $2000 dollar air rifle...

Kmd.

We can all work together on this and take your lemons and make lemon aid. After all this is worked out you'll be better off and more comfortable with working on your gun.

Did you get your safety working the way you wanted? Usually its a turn or two on the long set set screw. If you remove the stock you'll see the set screw I mean. Yes the safety doesn't set if the guns not cocked. I personally prefer to use the open bolt as the safety. All knowing you have to remove the clip if you've closed the bolt once so you dont double load the breach.

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I never heard that saying before and have no idea what it means, ha ha. I am not from the US, you know. : )

When I got the gun back, the safety would not work at all. I then spoke to Ernest, and he told me that I need to adjust a "long set screw", which I did. That got the safety to work. But not 100%. It would "set" even though the gun is not cocked. So to answer your question, NO, the safety is not working the way I like and the way it is supposed to.

What I am going to do is, try again adjusting that long set screw. I hope it is that simply to fix this issue.

Thanks for the input,

Kmd

Lemons are very bitter in the fruit form, if you take the lemon and squeeze the juice out of the fruit, add sugar and water. You make a very delicious Drink.

I would say your on the right track. Lock tight the set screw when you finely get it just as you like.

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Ahh... Roger that.

Thanks,

Kmd

Yeah mine was set too long originally too, it wouldn't clear the trigger plate. Turned it in a bit and all is good. I rarely use the safety, only cock before i shoot and if the shot isnt happening i just uncock it.

Pointing at it, maybe its a bit different on bobcat.

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Thanks for those pictures... I believe mine looks the same, but I forgot. Anyhow, my safety would not engage at all, so I messed with that screw and fix it. Now the safety works, but there is no distinction between cocked and not cocked, and I am wondering if THAT screw will fix the issue!? For some reason I doubt that. I guess I have to just try...

Thanks,

Kmd

If working properly you can put the safety on both cocked and not. Fiddle with it.

If youre not sure whether its cocked or not just pull the cocking lever back, is there spring tension? Yes? Not cocked, if theres no spring tension it is cocked.

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Well, others that have the Bobcat and/or similar guns (Royal 400/500 and Boss, I believe), say that the safety should not set all the way when the gun is not cocked. I also confirmed this on Friday when I went to my local gun shop and looked at their Bobcat.

That said, I am going to look at what you said. I guess I never paid attention to the spring tension. great tip!

Thanks again,

Kmd

I prefer it not being able to engage when the gun is uncocked. It is a nice way to double check if the gun is cocked or not, to avoid double loading a pellet while sitting at the bench. You can probably check it by using the cocking lever, but if you move the pellet probe out of magazine a new pellet will be cycled.

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+1

I guess its in the adjustment perhaps, i can change it cocked or uncocked. And you can feel the spring tension before the mag cycles so it doesnt double feed. To each their own.

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Like I said. I am going to see what I can do with that one screw... I do not feel like trying all the other screws, if you know what I mean. LOL.

Kmd