FX and global pricing - Europe vs USA

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Blackpaw

Blackpaw

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Okay I hear constantly that companies try to keep their prices “globally the same”, but well...that is an is not true. One of the major difference influencing prices is local VAT aka sales tax which the manufacture can’t do anything about. And here is my experience with “global pricing” without the comparing of global exchange rate between the dollar and the euro. Also, I can base my opinion as some what accurate based on I grew up in the USA and for almost the 10 years I have lived in Europe.

Once I heard FX tries to keep the prices the same globally, that is a sort of and here is my view of why I say this. Depending on the model of gun, the prices for FX guns (country dependent) are cheaper in Europe, i.e. Dreamline, but the higher end you go the prices are higher in Europe. Actually, the worst I have seen for price difference is with Daystates, wow they are expensive here in the Netherlands compared to the USA.

So when you are shopping either when you visit Europe or on EU webshops, remember to look at USA too before you do, if you have that option. But the only thing I can say, you might get the VAT tax removed if the product is sent to the USA, thus cheaper depending on the location and product.
 
Sorry AG Brother but it's like that with everything.
Especially high mark up anything airgun related as it's a small group of serious high end buyers. And the companies aren't big like Savage, Remington where a profit is turned at much lower MAP/MSRP.

Look at HW prices at Kral in The Netherlands. Compare that price to any Airgun Shop here in US or any Country a airgun isn't manufactured in.
A AirForce or Gun Power as they're known outside of USA is like $1200 for a Condor. It's absolutely crazy.

Look at the great airgun Marko (Found on GTA) in Finland builds for $1500 Euros. He can only barrel it up to a 24" .25 caliber Lothar Walther for export reasons, but; you can put any barrel you want up to .50 caliber & that platform & valve will send it.

Same with John Bowman's (found in Oklahoma USA) +1 (918) 801-6155 Scandalous builds.
They are the absolute best long range precision slug shooters made. No high production component gun can match it at long range and those power levels. A Scandalous is no FX. If shot count matters, you'll hate a Scandalous. I shoot slugs tethered with a step down in-line reg, so to me, that rock solid dedicated platform is needed
He normally uses Lilja barrels. If a TJ Liner, it gets Carbon Fiber vacuum wrapped. A true solid platform in anything from .22, .243, 6mm, 6.5, .257, 7mm, .338, .58, whatever you want in whatever twist is available. Packages start at $2200.00. They'd be A LOT more if exported somewhere legal.

So in my most honest opinion if you want something worth what you're paying buy a custom gun like a Thomas, a Beaumont, Bowman Scandalous or Marko's.


JSB 500 count 18.13 .22's? They're $10.99 in Europe. Available in 5.51-5.55. Here in USA? $18.99 and you're super lucky if a tin is all 5.51mm.

I have a tin from a member whose a great asset to this forum. Every single JSB 18.13 in that tin is 5.55-5.56 but marked 5.5mm. Go figure. Not sorted. Came that way. 
In the airgun world I have found many variances. In fact the one consistent is inconsistency. Be it prices or anything else. 
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The Yamaha YZF sports bike price in 2019 was so much cheaper in Canada then anywhere else in world. I got my 2017 Audi A4 for about 25% less then in Germany, the difference was almost like $10K. 5-10 years ago the VW - Audi - BMW diesels were cheaper in USA dollar to dollar 1:1 ratio, then at my place even after import duty's and taxes. Electronics (cameras, camcorders) in Canada were much expensive then EU or USA.

Can not explain.
 
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Sorry AG Brother but it's like that with everything.
Especially high mark up anything airgun related as it's a small group of serious high end buyers. And the companies aren't big like Savage, Remington where a profit is turned at much lower MAP/MSRP.

Look at HW prices at Kral in The Netherlands. Compare that price to any Airgun Shop here in US or any Country a airgun isn't manufactured in.
A AirForce or Gun Power as they're known outside of USA is like $1200 for a Condor. It's absolutely crazy.

Look at the great airgun Marko (Found on GTA) in Finland builds for $1500 Euros. He can only barrel it up to a 24" .25 caliber Lothar Walther for export reasons, but; you can put any barrel you want up to .50 caliber & that platform & valve will send it.

Same with John Bowman's (found in Oklahoma USA) +1 (918) 801-6155 Scandalous builds.
They are the absolute best long range precision slug shooters made. No high production component gun can match it at long range and those power levels. A Scandalous is no FX. If shot count matters, you'll hate a Scandalous. I shoot slugs tethered with a step down in-line reg, so to me, that rock solid dedicated platform is needed
He normally uses Lilja barrels. If a TJ Liner, it gets Carbon Fiber vacuum wrapped. A true solid platform in anything from .22, .243, 6mm, 6.5, .257, 7mm, .338, .58, whatever you want in whatever twist is available. Packages start at $2200.00. They'd be A LOT more if exported somewhere legal.

So in my most honest opinion if you want something worth what you're paying buy a custom gun like a Thomas, a Beaumont, Bowman Scandalous or Marko's.


JSB 500 count 18.13 .22's? They're $10.99 in Europe. Available in 5.51-5.55. Here in USA? $18.99 and you're super lucky if a tin is all 5.51mm.

I have a tin from a member whose a great asset to this forum. Every single JSB 18.13 in that tin is 5.55-5.56 but marked 5.5mm. Go figure. Not sorted. Came that way. 
In the airgun world I have found many variances. In fact the one consistent is inconsistency. Be it prices or anything else. 
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I would argue that one cannot precisely (within the tolerances discussed here) determine the diameter of a round, lead object with a screw micrometer. Just saying.
 
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I would argue that one cannot precisely (within the tolerances discussed here) determine the diameter of a round, lead object with a screw micrometer. Just saying.
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I just bought this couple days ago:

COMBO: Speedy Pellet Inspector + Pellet Gage

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Yup. A "go/no-go" gauge is the best way to get accurate measurements at that level of precision on things like round, soft lead. The link you posted is a form of a go/no-go gauge. Used in machine shops for a couple centuries at least for this type of precise measuring, particularly for round objects, and definitely needed for soft metal.
 
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