FX and a 300bar fill

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harrymoreland

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Any thoughts?. 

I have sought to discover what cc these new FX 300bar bottles will be available in, no luck as yet, Matt shows a pic in his latest vid (around 18.45 in), and it looks like a 0.4?, I know other manufactures use 500cc.

Wondering if the 580cc will be 300bar friendly. to be honest I believe their bottles where already 300bar capable and probably tested to much higher than 300bar, but who would want to take chances, and maybe its not a new bottle but a new valve.

A question for the boffins (by boffins I mean those with the formula and a calculator)

What holds more useable air, A 480cc 300bar or a 580cc 240bar?.



good luck
 
New PCP owner here. Have had lots of break-barrels and standard fire-arms....So I have LOTs of questions regarding the PCP stuff. I've been lurking and have learned a few things....

Once I purchased my PCP rifle I realized that there's still a lot of $$$ to spend for air accessories. I've decided there is NO way I've getting a manual pump and picked up a Hartsan tacair VOLT. My questions for the most part is regarding bottles. According to spec --the VOLT pump can only fill a 1 liter bottle. So what can a 1 liter bottle hold and is it even worth getting to keep in the car when out shooting? I purchased a Uragan King .25 - So would a one liter bottle give me a few fills? I have a scuba shop just down the road, so getting larger bottles filled is not a issue. I was basically curious if it was worth getting the 1 liter to use with my pump and then when I get a larger bottle I can get it filled at the scuba shop. How many fills on average would you get with your typical bottle?



Thanks for your time!!

Charlie

ADK Mountains NY
 
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I have done the maths on larger tanks but similar comparisons. The higher pressure lower volume bottles usually come out on top as long as the size difference isn't major. Without going through the equations again I'll make an educated guess and say that the usable content would be similar or just on the side of the higher pressure bottle. Lower pressure-higher volume bottles have higher ratios of unusable or packer fill space. So a larger lower pressure container may contain more gross volume but less usable content. I hope that this is the explanation that you were looking for.
 
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New PCP owner here. Have had lots of break-barrels and standard fire-arms....So I have LOTs of questions regarding the PCP stuff. I've been lurking and have learned a few things....

Once I purchased my PCP rifle I realized that there's still a lot of $$$ to spend for air accessories. I've decided there is NO way I've getting a manual pump and picked up a Hartsan tacair VOLT. My questions for the most part is regarding bottles. According to spec --the VOLT pump can only fill a 1 liter bottle. So what can a 1 liter bottle hold and is it even worth getting to keep in the car when out shooting? I purchased a Uragan King .25 - So would a one liter bottle give me a few fills? I have a scuba shop just down the road, so getting larger bottles filled is not a issue. I was basically curious if it was worth getting the 1 liter to use with my pump and then when I get a larger bottle I can get it filled at the scuba shop. How many fills on average would you get with your typical bottle?



Thanks for your time!!

Charlie

ADK Mountains NY
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1 liter is 1000cc, If I'm not mistaking Urugan bottle is 530cc so "MAYBE" you can fill it once. Skip 1liter and go with a bigger tank.

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New PCP owner here. Have had lots of break-barrels and standard fire-arms....So I have LOTs of questions regarding the PCP stuff. I've been lurking and have learned a few things....

Once I purchased my PCP rifle I realized that there's still a lot of $$$ to spend for air accessories. I've decided there is NO way I've getting a manual pump and picked up a Hartsan tacair VOLT. My questions for the most part is regarding bottles. According to spec --the VOLT pump can only fill a 1 liter bottle. So what can a 1 liter bottle hold and is it even worth getting to keep in the car when out shooting? I purchased a Uragan King .25 - So would a one liter bottle give me a few fills? I have a scuba shop just down the road, so getting larger bottles filled is not a issue. I was basically curious if it was worth getting the 1 liter to use with my pump and then when I get a larger bottle I can get it filled at the scuba shop. How many fills on average would you get with your typical bottle?



Thanks for your time!!

Charlie

ADK Mountains NY
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1 liter is 1000cc, If I'm not mistaking Urugan bottle is 530cc so "MAYBE" you can fill it once. Skip 1liter and go with a bigger tank.

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The Uragan kings reservoir volume is 1060cc so a 1l/1000cc 300 bar bottle won't even give one full fill. It'll get you a single partial fill from a 150bar refill pressure to maybe just over 200 bar. Not worth it at all really 
 
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I think we are having the wrong argument. We should be thinking about value of extreme high pressure.verses its cost. Most of this readership has already graduated into personal compressors for very obvious reasons. So, having more shots per gun fill is the only answer on the positive side and if you own your own compressor, filling the gun is just seconds in time. I can fill the rest of the page with negatives that most of you already know, so I won't even mention them and they are numerous.
 
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Before buying any tank above 3300 psi who want to have them filled at a scuba shop, check with the scuba shop first, many cannot fill over 3300psi. Also scba tanks take a special fitting that many scuba shops don't have, most have connections for just K valves and Din valves. In Nashville when I was still getting my tank filled at the scuba shop, I had to provide a K valve to scba adapter so they could fill my tank. You have to do your homework before buying stuff.
 
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