Anyone here know much about them? I just bought a very nice one for some 10M matches. It's going to need a new buffer as the one in it is coming apart. While it's apart I'll replace the breech seal and the little bumper. The pistol appears to have been shot very little so I don't thing the ring needs to be replaced. Should I go ahead and order a new spring while I'm ordering parts?



For the folks that shoot the 65/80 what pellet ranges works best? other than a lot of practice any tips?



Thanks, Justin
 
Superb 10m match pistol 1977-83 approx 48,000 made upgraded model of the 65 with 3 moveable weights and adjustable trigger. Pellet preference as with any gun must be tested.

65 on the left, 80 on the right

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I shoot a FWB 80, and sent it to Pilk Guns for an overhaul last year. These are the items that were replaced-

1600.125.3 Damper
1600.122.3 Sealing Ring
1600.127.3 mainspring for Model 65
1600.124.3 Mod 65 Piston Buffer

The parts cost roughly $110.

Do not spend a great deal of money on pellets- RWS Basic, or RWS Hobby work just fine, 7.0 grain. When these pistols were popular RWS Hobby pellets were the thing.

Tips- after firing, hold on target and double check sight picture until you feel the recoil mechanism stop. 




 
As already noted, an awesome pistol that followed the famous model 65 (but - if you will forgive me for getting my history geek on - was also out-lived by the 65, which remained as FWB’s entry model for many years after the model 80 was replaced as FWB’s top “match” offering by CO2 and SSP models). The main changes in the 80 were a completely different trigger mechanism with a positionable blade and the balance weights.

Luckily for us, the critical perishable parts (spring, ring, buffer, breech seal) are the same on both pistols. A modified 65 was introduced about the same time as the 80 to further increase parts commonality (these later 65’s have a longer grip tang, and also share the angular front sight and wider rear sight with the 80).

An ingenious feature of the model 80 is that the three weights are made of different materials and weigh different amounts. You can get an amazing number of variations in the overall balance by switching them around, as well as by taking them on and off. That being said, the gun is rather heavy compared to most modern PCP match pistols, even with no weights aboard.

I’ve never owned an 80 but several 65’s have passed through here. When testing pellets you will notice that some are not only more accurate than others, but that some feel distinctly more “recoilless” than others due to variations in weight and fit (skirt size being particularly critical). It pays to hunt for one that both shoots well and gives good firing behavior. I concur that light pellets seem to generally work best. My 65’s like RWS Hobby, RWS R10 Pistol, and H&N Match Pistol for target work, while the Air Arms Falcons and its cousin the JSB Exact 7.3 are great for outdoor work at longer ranges.
 
Congratulations! You have just bought the best spring piston pistol ever made. I shot one in competition for several years. Very accurate with most wadcutter pellets. I used H&N 7.65 gr Match or RWS Meisterkugeln. Enjoy. BTW, just the plastc seals and piston buffer should be replaced. The cast iron piston ring rarely needs replacement. 
 
It’s certainly not a bad idea to keep a stash of spare parts for these older guns, but FWB springs are very high quality and shouldn’t need replacing if it hasn’t been used much. A chrono session is the key of course. The 65 and 80 should push light ammo like the Hobby or Falcon in the mid to high 400’s.

Oh one handling tip, for what it’s worth. The typical way to cock an FWB pistol is to hold it vertically in your right hand, then use your left hand to swing the lever sideways with an overhand grip. But I find it much easier to hold it palm horizontal, facing up; and then lift the lever vertically with an underhand grip. A lot less stress on the elbow and thumb...especially if you’re as old as me, LOL.
 
All the parts are ordered, just over $90 shipped. This afternoon I put a drop of synthetic chamber lube in it and a couple drops on the slide and took it to the shop to fire a few pellets through it. With RWS 7.0 Hobby it averaged 450 fps over ten shots and H&N Match 8.02 it averaged 420 fps for ten shots. At 10M with the grip resting on the rear jack screw of my rest it shot eight in one hole about the size of a dime and two off to the left about 1/2" with the JSB's. The RWS pellets didn't group very well, I did order some RWS Diablo Basic 7.0 gr pellets though.

My buddy has a 65 so I took it to his place and let him check it out and shot his pistol while I was there and the shot cycle is the same so I guess the little vibration in the shot cycle is normal for these pistols. When my parts arrive I'll take it apart and give it a good cleaning and lube. Then I'll see if I can figure out how to shoot it.