Fragmenting Slugs!!! 22 & 25 cal slow motion video shows ideal slug for pesting.

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    Long_Shot
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    Just a short video showing the type of fragmenting airgun slugs that can be produced.  These are the type of slugs that @swish and I have been making, shooting and testing this last year. For small pests (especially at long range) were rapid expansion is needed at low velocity nothing is even close to these in performance. 

    https://youtu.be/TbsD43gdiFM

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    Motorhead
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    But at what range was the target from gun when video was recorded ?

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    Septicdeath
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    The video really don't show anything except a carbonated drink being shot. Need more information.

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    wahoowad
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    I think we’ve all seen a can shot by an airgun 

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    Long_Shot
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    Motorhead

    But at what range was the target from gun when video was recorded ?

    Velocity's were listed at POI. Simple test Video. The .25 cal. slug at 760 FPS is the same results as my slug gun at 135 yards. But, still able to get complete fragmentation at 260 yards confirmed so far.  The .22 cal. will work at as low as 600 FPS – That's 300 yards for a .22 cal. 28gr. at 940 FPS to be able to get complete fragmentation. Clearly it will work at the 200 yard ranges it was developed for. 

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    oldspook
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    Accuracy?

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    Swish
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    Match grade accuracy just like our standard HPs. Same profile and weight.

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    Motorhead
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    Motorhead

    But at what range was the target from gun when video was recorded ?

    Velocity's were listed at POI. Simple test Video. The .25 cal. slug at 760 FPS is the same results as my slug gun at 135 yards. But, still able to get complete fragmentation at 260 yards confirmed so far.  The .22 cal. will work at as low as 600 FPS – That's 300 yards for a .22 cal. 28gr. at 940 FPS to be able to get complete fragmentation. Clearly it will work at the 200 yard ranges it was developed for. 

    So were going to left to assume that you are showing what the slug does to a can of water shot fairly close if not point blank at a reduced velocity that is claimed to be equal to a speed at some far way distance ?

    Yet leaving out If or Not you could even hit the can in the first place at that distance ?

    Rather than get involved further … I'm out

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    Swish
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    The difference between a well performing HP and these new frag slugs on impact is huge. 

    For example, my 24 grain slugs going about 920fps would barely move a can full of water at around 175-200 yards. It would punch a small hole through it with a slight split and not even knock it over. That was about the threshold for the slug to have enough energy left to fully or even partially open. So as usual most of the energy ends up in the dirt behind the can.

    With the design we've developed the same slug makes a can at 175+ explode and fly backwards very similar to the cans in Long_Shots video. Night and day difference. 

    As Long_Shot said we've tested them slower than 600 fps and they still fully frag every time in multiple medias. Keep in mind they blossom to about 3/4" before the pedals break off and go there separate ways.  Maximum energy transfer with extreme tissue damage. 

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    Cranky1
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    So are you using a compressed powder core with a lead jacket, kinda like a Barnes varmint grenade? 

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    sonny
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    Looks impressive, great for indoor pesting at low velocity's,  only true world results will prove them at distance on quarry.

    Thanks for the video. 

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    Long_Shot
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    Motorhead  –  Yet leaving out If or Not you could even hit the can in the first place at that distance ?

    That's funny. We can hit those big cans easily out to 200 yards with these slugs

    If I spend my time to show AGN something, you can bet your ass their CONFIRMED accurate past 200 yards. 

    Last weekend Swish put 8 out of 10 of these slugs in a 1 5/8" group on paper at 200 yards. For a .22 cal. I'd lean toward that's pretty accurate. 

    Here's a couple cans from 135 yards. Testing two different slugs while verifying real world results. The one on the left is lighter with a different HP that opens slower (with a consistently higher POI) than the one on right. The one on the right opens fast. I shot a lot of them that day, and yes I did miss one, twice even. 

     

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    Swish
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    We understand to the untrained eye it's just cans being shot with pellet guns. 

    This is what it looks like when nearly every bit 50+ and 75 fpe gets dumped on impact.

    We've got it down to where the fragments don't even penetrate the face of the box most the time.

    When the slug enters it explodes open releasing energy. The path of leased resistance is through the hole it just created. That's why the water rushes out from entry at first and the back of the cans get sucked in so far from the vacuum. The dense frags still have just enough energy to carry through the back of the can and hit the box before the can goes for a ride.

    Next the water forces the can back Into the box. As this happens you can see the water droplets moving 360 degrees away from the explosion point. Since the cans are split wide open in the front they become a water parachute resulting in them being sent backwards. 

    We pay close attention to these details and many others to fine tune and manipulate our results. We've probably spent way to much time on it but the rewards have been undeniable. 

    If you pay attention to slug hunting videos you'll notice a ton of ricochets in the dirt behind the pests from the slug buttons after the pass through. That's a lot of unsafe waisted energy. Hunting videos are going to look a bit different with these. We've had them completely remove limbs from squirrels. 

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    Cranky1
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    You can tell on the exit and entrance that the slug dumps most of it’s energy, it reminds me of my 17hmr. I would really like to test these out of my Uragan compact on game. 

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    You can tell on the exit and entrance that the slug dumps most of it’s energy, it reminds me of my 17hmr. I would really like to test these out of my Uragan compact on game. 

    The 17hmr blows the can apart more but with the same energy dump as you point out. 

     Of coarse a standard HP would have blown through the box 40 – 50 layers of plastic in it and been still flying with a lot of energy. I know because there's holes in the back of that box from them. 

    You asked earlier how their made. Just part of the swaging process actually. For anyone using a Corbin Swaging setup these are no problem to make. 

    This post is just to show what can be achieved for low velocity airgun slugs really. We have already tested these on game and cadavers at long and close range. They work for their designed purpose far better than a standard HP. The safety factor is huge. 

    I'm sure that commercial versions will be coming out for the public at some point. Much sooner than you think. 

     

     

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