PCP air gun first flat focal plane second flat focal plane Which is more suitable Thank you
First plane focus second plane of focus
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Hot dog or hamburger?
Taco or burrito?
Hold over or click for elevation?
It depends on what you want to do and how you want to do it.
Taco or burrito?
Hold over or click for elevation?
It depends on what you want to do and how you want to do it.
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If your looking at $1k plus with high quality turrets, then using them a lot is at least an option for sfp, if it’s a sub $500? Ffp and Sight in and use hold overs, at least that is what I do. This is usually very chevy vs Ford as stated above, but for Airgun hunting? I can say the ffp converts on my list is far larger, haven’t talked to very many people that have gone from ffp back to sfp? Especially if they like to shoot farther ranges, close range, sfp for sure. My 2 centavos
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Too me where SFP shines the most in that mag range is when it's on low magnification and one needs to make out the reticle quickly. For instance I use a Athlon Talos 4-16x44 SFP with it's thick mildot reticle for coyote hunting since I'll have it on 4x most of the time with the intent of closer and faster shooting in the junipers.
Or for paper target shooting like benchrest with a high magnification, SFP/32-50x and also ranging in FT matches.
FFP for everything else, even with my 1-8 for 3 gun since it's daylight bright illuminated, 1x is easy to see.
FFP is very versatile and requires less attention when it comes to holdovers and holdoffs. I had no problem making out the reticle at 8x with my Midas TAC 4-16 to head shoot a rabbit at 45y a few days ago, seeing the reticle on 4x could have been iffy with that scope??!!
I highly suggest buying a Athlon Midas TAC 6-24 instead. That scope is the best value going as far as FFP scopes and at almost half the price.
Or for paper target shooting like benchrest with a high magnification, SFP/32-50x and also ranging in FT matches.
FFP for everything else, even with my 1-8 for 3 gun since it's daylight bright illuminated, 1x is easy to see.
FFP is very versatile and requires less attention when it comes to holdovers and holdoffs. I had no problem making out the reticle at 8x with my Midas TAC 4-16 to head shoot a rabbit at 45y a few days ago, seeing the reticle on 4x could have been iffy with that scope??!!
I highly suggest buying a Athlon Midas TAC 6-24 instead. That scope is the best value going as far as FFP scopes and at almost half the price.
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I really like the exact same scope, Midas TAC 6-24. However, I’m a newbie and second guessing every decision due to most my purchases. MTC Viper Pro works great until it doesn’t work. My replacement needs replacing after 1 use. I love dialing in for distance but has its drawbacks.
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I bought my first FFP and like it but I hunt small pests and unless I use higher magnification I can’t clearly see center dot for accuracy. One advantage of SFP is that you can see/use hash marks/mil dots for adjustments and clearly see entire reticle at every power
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Here is a link where I demonstrate the FFP scope at 4, 8 and 12 power.
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/ffp-at-4x-8x-and-12x-comparison/
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/ffp-at-4x-8x-and-12x-comparison/
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In case some don't understand this fact - SFP scopes have their moa or mil values correct on only one magnification, usually the highest magnification the scope offers, but not always.On high magnification the FOV could be very small, that might be a limiting factor when hunting or other situations.
So the 4-16 SFP I mentioned earlier... I use 4x for up close to have the largest FOV possible, and I won't be holding off for wind or holding over using the reticle because the shot will be basically point blank or inside 200Y, the bullet is going 3735 fps so, little, if any, correction is needed. If I want to use holdovers and holdoffs with that same rifle/scope I know that mils are correct at 10x on this particular scope, the values in the reticle will change because it's a SFP scope, they can be calculated but I forgo doing it, I'm lazy and I have other rifles I can grab that have nice FFP scopes if I want so that's what I do. Or on 16x with the SFP scope, I dial elevation and guess the wind holdoff in approximate inches, on occasion I'll dial windage too but not normally.
FFP, except for that 1-8x24 3 gun scope, I will rarely use the lowest magnification. I knew when I bought the higher magnification FFP scopes I'd be using mid to higher power magnification 99% of the time. Some of my FFP scopes have only been used on lowest mag when I shot over the chronograph to make sure I didn't hit it.
I had this old Horus Predator 8-26 x50 FFP scope, it was my first FFP scope, the turrets didn't track worth a darn. I was forced to use only holdovers and holdoffs. I did make a few 1900 yard shots with a ELR rifle on a 3' steel using 6x but this is as far from ideal as it can be. It does show how cool a good FFP reticle is when a scope doesn't track well.
Just yesterday we were shooting my American Air Arms EVOL 30 cal at farther distances for an air rifle. Friends were shooting a 5" steel at 191Y, they used 3.5 to 4 mils of holdoff to hit it because of heavy winds. This is when a FFP at higher magnification comes into it's own IMO, a mil is a mil on any magnification so we were not concerned what power the scope was nor if the values were incorrect, and the .2 mil hashes on the horizontal helped to know where to hold within a click. Those .2's were also valuable when shooting at our 19" 1122Y steel with the tactical rifle. I held .6 mils of wind to hit and my friend held 1.2 mils, the wind had changed that much in a short amount of time.
So the 4-16 SFP I mentioned earlier... I use 4x for up close to have the largest FOV possible, and I won't be holding off for wind or holding over using the reticle because the shot will be basically point blank or inside 200Y, the bullet is going 3735 fps so, little, if any, correction is needed. If I want to use holdovers and holdoffs with that same rifle/scope I know that mils are correct at 10x on this particular scope, the values in the reticle will change because it's a SFP scope, they can be calculated but I forgo doing it, I'm lazy and I have other rifles I can grab that have nice FFP scopes if I want so that's what I do. Or on 16x with the SFP scope, I dial elevation and guess the wind holdoff in approximate inches, on occasion I'll dial windage too but not normally.
FFP, except for that 1-8x24 3 gun scope, I will rarely use the lowest magnification. I knew when I bought the higher magnification FFP scopes I'd be using mid to higher power magnification 99% of the time. Some of my FFP scopes have only been used on lowest mag when I shot over the chronograph to make sure I didn't hit it.
I had this old Horus Predator 8-26 x50 FFP scope, it was my first FFP scope, the turrets didn't track worth a darn. I was forced to use only holdovers and holdoffs. I did make a few 1900 yard shots with a ELR rifle on a 3' steel using 6x but this is as far from ideal as it can be. It does show how cool a good FFP reticle is when a scope doesn't track well.
Just yesterday we were shooting my American Air Arms EVOL 30 cal at farther distances for an air rifle. Friends were shooting a 5" steel at 191Y, they used 3.5 to 4 mils of holdoff to hit it because of heavy winds. This is when a FFP at higher magnification comes into it's own IMO, a mil is a mil on any magnification so we were not concerned what power the scope was nor if the values were incorrect, and the .2 mil hashes on the horizontal helped to know where to hold within a click. Those .2's were also valuable when shooting at our 19" 1122Y steel with the tactical rifle. I held .6 mils of wind to hit and my friend held 1.2 mils, the wind had changed that much in a short amount of time.
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