First pigeons with Crown and slugs!

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    Bob_O
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    Kevin,

    Depending upon what the slugs need for speed, you might have to stay on the lighter side.  With the WC25 and Crown25, the most I could get from the 34gr JSB's was 848 with the WC and 880 I think with the Crown?    If the slugs need to go into the low to mid 900's like the 22 caliber, you'd probably need to use 25 to 30gr.   Those are my thoughts anyway.

    I hope you get to try them soon!!  

    Here's a short video.  Sorry I don't have more but I only had two hours to do everything at the farms this morning, and the birds were a bit slow due to the extreme cold.   I will be back there tomorrow for the whole day, and it's suppose to be warmer so hopefully the bird will be more active.

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    douger
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    great start for the slugs love the a t n 

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    Bob_O
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    I will give the slugs my best effort as I really want them to be accurate at long range.  If I can't hit pigeons and crows at 130 yards then I'll go back to pellets.

    I have a nice gun and good scope.  And I tuned and tweaked the hammer tension for the best I could get over the Chrono at this reg pressure (155bar).  I'll shoot another 100 to 200 slugs before I do a serious accuracy check.

    Matt Dubber gave a pretty detailed reply today to someone on Instagram who questioned the results he was getting at 221yds.  He basically said to not bother shooting for groups until after 200 slugs, which at around that point the barrel should achieve it's lead equilibrium.  Then it won't need to be cleaned.

    So maybe after another 100 slugs I will do it on a day when it's fairly calm and at least 25 degrees.   Tomorrow I will shoot 21gr, 22.5gr Varmint Knockers and 23gr some more.   After that I should have a good idea which slugs to order more of.

    I have a crap load of 19gr that I plan to use for 30 to 50yd work if they can do an inch at 50.  The VK slugs I just got today after I got back from the farm.  I would really like for those to work, as they have a larger hollow point than the NSA slugs.

    One other thought I have is to put the X-Sight on the Crown for a couple of outings,  being it's easier to record and has better slomo for tracking the slugs, checking for wobble, etc.

    Fun times for sure!!

     

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    Bob_O
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    Okay, here is what Matt said to me about cleaning the barrel:

     

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    bubblerboy64
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    I’ve never been convinced that great barrels get better after shooting .  Not to say they don’t but more that there must be something wrong that has to get worn down covered over or some how changed.  

    I mean we do what works but…. saying You need to shoot 200 rounds doesn’t build much confidence for me

     

    Writing this just for purpose of discussion not in any way intending criticism.  Lead build up never helped me and I’ve seen factory barrel get better after some rounds but 200 slugs shouldn’t do much as far a wear in and seems like leading would only get worse after the 200 ???   John Heckman 

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    Bob_O
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    I pulled two dry patches through before heading out this morning.  Made an 80yd shot and a 130 yd shot.

    Video from today is lots better and I hope to see the slug in flight once I get it on the computer. 

    Accuracy was great when I made sighter shots on the cement portion of the silo right below the dome.  3 shots right next to each other at 130 yds. 

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    orion
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    I’m waiting anxiously…

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    Bob_O
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    Well guys, I won't have time this week to make a full video…..so this short one will have to do.  Just a few of the handful of shots I made today.   Confidence is building with each shot…….slugs have a different nature to them.  I have found as the Air Hunters have said, that there's hardly any wind hold compared to pellets.  I also learned that the slugs will go higher than pellets when shooting at incline angles.   I shot right over several pigeons today before I realized what was going on.

    In fact, even at just a 10* incline angle, this long shot barely connected despite holding an inch low for the shot.   I'll be busy with work and snow removal this week but I'll get back out next weekend.

    Oh yeah, the slugs hit very hard!  No ricochet sounds today, just loud smacks.  The microphone on the phone didn't do it justice!

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    Outback
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    Great information on what you are being able to achieve with the slugs and how you are getting it , They seem the way forwards for any one wanting to extend the capabilities of there rifles which a lot of folks want to .

    To be honest the cost of getting the slugs over here and doing the R&D for the rifle is way out there , but I have read people in the Netherlands are altering .22 rimfire bullets to suit the pcp so I will be of to the safe and start pulling bullets  apart to try and keep up with you guy's .

    Regards . 

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    edosan
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    Looks like you are having fun with the slug liner! nice!

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    markT
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    Nice shooting Bob!! 130 yards??? That's a looooong shot. Well done. 

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    Bob_O
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    Thanks Mark!   

    Here is some more information from Matt about slugs.  Very helpful.  These were in response to someone else but the information wasn't specific to that person.

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    orion
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    Thanks for sharing Bob. This slug liner is all new stuff and as such it will require some time to get the hang of it…

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    markT
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    Looks like you have a superb "support group" to get you thru the slug learning curve..Im sure you will get it sorted out and dialed in.. But the way you shoot pellets…not sure there's a lot of room for improvements.. 

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    Bob_O
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    Bruce

    What did you fill your bag with Bob?

    Bruce,

    The bag comes stuffed with some kind of small beads.   It's just the right amount so the bag gives and allows the gun to sink into it.  But you can also squeeze it to make very small changes in elevation.

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    trooper618
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    Nice shooting! 

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