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    Menttaliist
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    Sorry for the off topic

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    “Glem.Chally”

    “terrymc”Funny I just received one as well.
    Loving it so far.
    I have already started to modify mine.
    I bought the carbon fiber tank from Talon Tunes and installed it the same day I got the gun.
    Today I stopped on my way home and picked up a regulator for it from Airguns of Arizona, they are local for me.

    Here is a peak at mine.

     

    
Yeah that’s beautiful,  the walnut and laminate are even for me.  I love the look of them,  those CF tanks are 189 from Talon Tunes?  The advantages are lighter and higher shot count?  Whats the fill pressure?

    Thanks for the kind words.

    
It is capable of 250 bar but you don’t want to do that high without a regulator, which is why I stopped and picked one up tonight.
    Yes lighter and when combined with a regulator greater shot count.
    Yes $189 from Talon Tunes which is the only reason I could justify buying one, at $350 it is just too much.

    The problem is that at 220 bar a heavy pellet JSB King heavy starts at 785 fps and shoots up to 885 at 160 bar, then down again so the bell curve is rediculous at full tilt boogy.
    but that gave a peak FPE of 59 instead of the 45 the factory shows. So 100 fps extreme spread when set up for peak energy on heavy pellets.

    I will play with the velocities and the pellet weights to come up with something that gives both long range wind fighting capability and extreme accuracy.
    It will be a lot of give and take, but I am up for the fun.

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    “Glem.Chally”

    “terrymc”Funny I just received one as well.
    Loving it so far.
    I have already started to modify mine.
    I bought the carbon fiber tank from Talon Tunes and installed it the same day I got the gun.
    Today I stopped on my way home and picked up a regulator for it from Airguns of Arizona, they are local for me.

    Here is a peak at mine.

     

    
Yeah that’s beautiful,  the walnut and laminate are even for me.  I love the look of them,  those CF tanks are 189 from Talon Tunes?  The advantages are lighter and higher shot count?  Whats the fill pressure?

    Thanks for the kind words.

    
It is capable of 250 bar but you don’t want to do that high without a regulator, which is why I stopped and picked one up tonight.
    Yes lighter and when combined with a regulator greater shot count.
    Yes $189 from Talon Tunes which is the only reason I could justify buying one, at $350 it is just too much.

    The problem is that at 220 bar a heavy pellet JSB King heavy starts at 785 fps and shoots up to 885 at 160 bar, then down again so the bell curve is rediculous at full tilt boogy.
    but that gave a peak FPE of 59 instead of the 45 the factory shows. So 100 fps extreme spread when set up for peak energy on heavy pellets.

    I will play with the velocities and the pellet weights to come up with something that gives both long range wind fighting capability and extreme accuracy.
    It will be a lot of give and take, but I am up for the fun.

    
Yeah 350 is ridiculous for what it is,  189 is very reasonable and where the price should be.  Mine came regulated, and that’s a great start 885 with a king heavy 34gr?  That’s huge power keep me updated please!

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    Gunnertrones
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    Congratulations with a superb rifle Glem!
    You mentioned the lighter weight on carbon bottle as preferable. I agree, but the CB also gives you the opportunity to switch bottles between rifles, or bring spare bottles to the field/range and increase your shot count substantially. 
    Myself I have 2 bottles for my Impact, and also got a spare bottle delivered with my Royale 500 (same stock as yours by the way) which came recently.
    With 4 bottles, and two guns that use the same system,  I no longer have to bring the scuba tank to the range. 
    I say this because you mentioned the Crown is on it`s way to Canada, but not sure if you meant you have it on your list? 
     

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    Glem.Chally
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    “Gunnertrones”Congratulations with a superb rifle Glem!
    You mentioned the lighter weight on carbon bottle as preferable. I agree, but the CB also gives you the opportunity to switch bottles between rifles, or bring spare bottles to the field/range and increase your shot count substantially. 
    Myself I have 2 bottles for my Impact, and also got a spare bottle delivered with my Royale 500 (same stock as yours by the way) which came recently.
    With 4 bottles, and two guns that use the same system,  I no longer have to bring the scuba tank to the range. 
    I say this because you mentioned the Crown is on it`s way to Canada, but not sure if you meant you have it on your list? 
     

    
Thanks very much Gunner,  yeah that makes sense about the benefits of the CF bottles for swapping out as well as the lightness.  I mentioned the Crown because the other guy (sorry forgot his name) had mentioned about the different looking barrel I have compared to down there.  And that the Crown being fully shrouded down there will end up with a barrel like mine (no shroud only a muzzle brake) by the time they make their way up here most likely.  Yes the Crown is definitely on my list, as is the RAW but for now and the foreseeable future the Royale will be king for me.

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    Glem.Chally
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    Well I made it out to the forest for a few hours,  hot up here and very dry.  The forest is a tinderbox and many fires burning in my Province ended up shooting a tank about 80 or so shots down to 120 bar or so.  It’s REALLY loud on high with no moderator,  sounds about like a 22lr and hits like a hammer.  I put some paper targets on some trees and shredded them.  Very happy with the gun so far.

    Got some pics of it in it’s natural setting,  found a nice little creek as well and soaked my head.  Very wild forests up here, especially in Summer very green with 8-10 foot undergrowth of coastal blackberry and many kinds of nasty thorns and thistles.  Any PNW guys might know about this stuff.  Bad idea to wear shorts and running shoes haha, I had fun anyways

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    terrymc
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    Looks beautiful in its new habitat. I especially like the first shot.
    Shame about you guys and moderators as with the one on mine it is almost as quiet as my AA S510 with a shroud and moderator on it.

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    “Glem.Chally”

    “terrymc”

    “Glem.Chally”

    “terrymc”Funny I just received one as well.
    Loving it so far.
    I have already started to modify mine.
    I bought the carbon fiber tank from Talon Tunes and installed it the same day I got the gun.
    Today I stopped on my way home and picked up a regulator for it from Airguns of Arizona, they are local for me.

    Here is a peak at mine.

     

    
Yeah that’s beautiful,  the walnut and laminate are even for me.  I love the look of them,  those CF tanks are 189 from Talon Tunes?  The advantages are lighter and higher shot count?  Whats the fill pressure?

    Thanks for the kind words.

    
It is capable of 250 bar but you don’t want to do that high without a regulator, which is why I stopped and picked one up tonight.
    Yes lighter and when combined with a regulator greater shot count.
    Yes $189 from Talon Tunes which is the only reason I could justify buying one, at $350 it is just too much.

    The problem is that at 220 bar a heavy pellet JSB King heavy starts at 785 fps and shoots up to 885 at 160 bar, then down again so the bell curve is rediculous at full tilt boogy.
    but that gave a peak FPE of 59 instead of the 45 the factory shows. So 100 fps extreme spread when set up for peak energy on heavy pellets.

    I will play with the velocities and the pellet weights to come up with something that gives both long range wind fighting capability and extreme accuracy.
    It will be a lot of give and take, but I am up for the fun.

    
Yeah 350 is ridiculous for what it is,  189 is very reasonable and where the price should be.  Mine came regulated, and that’s a great start 885 with a king heavy 34gr?  That’s huge power keep me updated please!

    
So I got the Regulator in today.
    I got it mostly dialed in.
    I am down to the final tweeks.
    I came set for 135 bar which is way too low for the heavies.
    I shot a set of 75+ rounds at 780 ish so I knew I was going to have to turn it up.
    I tore it apart and put a half turn in for the regulator.
    shot another set and found that it looked like it was falling off the regulator just over 170 bar (I do not own a regulator tester so I had to use shot strings to gauge the pressure)
    Once back together I got 840’s that ramped up to 855 at around 160 bar. This gave me right around 50 shots from 220 bar to off the regulator.
    So it looks likely that I will reach my target of 55fpe and a minimum of 55 shots.
    The fact that it went up 10 fps at the just under 170 bar told me that is approx where it was coming off the regulator since the speed went UP.
    I pulled it apart again and turned about 1/10 of a turn out of the reg which should put me in the 160-165 bar area hopefully, and then put it all back together again.
    THE BAD, when I put it together the stock retaining boss/bolt broke so I have not been able to do the final testing yet of what I hope is the final setting for the regulator.

    We shall see this week if I can reach my goals, but they look likely.
     

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    Glem.Chally
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    Excellent Terry,  thanks for updating.  Great numbers so far!

    Is the regulator an FX one or other?

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    terrymc
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    Hi Glem,
    It is an FX regulator.
    At first I was not happy with the extreme spread numbers but they settled in the more I shot.
    The last set of 50 was shooting around 10 fps spread before falling off the regulator, even then it was less than 20 fps with the little bell curve at the end.
    For comparison  my Lane regulator on my AA. Ultimate Sporter does 10-11 fps extreme spread consistently, so the FX is right there for twice the cost. (Lane $85, FX $200)

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    Glem.Chally
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    Well no .25 single shot trays in Canada for the Royale so I made my own out of a piece of Douglas Fir,  very thin at the bottom but being Fir it should be fine its stronger than it looks.  Also got my carrier for my air tank and made a sock for it out of an old wool sweater.  Got a membership at a local range the only one around with a rifle range of 25, 50, 100 and 200 meters

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    Menttaliist
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    You got yourself a pretty good set up buddy! I would say the next update should be a 480cc CF bottle, that will make a HUGE difference in weight distribution, no regrets :)

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    Glem.Chally
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    Thanks Menttaliist,  yeah the CF bottle is next on the list.  Here’s a couple more,  I installed some swivel studs and a bipod.  Was definitely a bit nervous drilling into the stock but it went great.  Countersunk a pocket on the bottle side of the stock and filled it with epoxy to make sure nothing ever moves. 

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    mcoulter
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    Looks great!  Is your bipod also attached with a stud? Or did you mount a rail?  It’s hard to tell by the photos.   I have a  400 with a walnut stock and will eventually be putting a bipod on it…

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    Glem.Chally
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    Thanks, yeah it is mounted with a stud.  I just made like kind of a counter sunk bowl on the bottle side and filled it with epoxy to secure the stud after screwing it in.  It’s not super thick there as you know.  I’ll take a picture next time I have the stock off.

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    chasdicapua
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    Really nice pics of the PNW. You’re lucky to live there. 

    Royale 500 shot count info:  Mine has an FX regulator and gets 55 shots per 220 bar fill shooting the heavies around 840 – 845 fps.  I had the number one setting bored out so it’s shooting the kings at 885 fps for around 82 shots before it falls off the regulator. 

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    Glem.Chally
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    “chasdicapua”Really nice pics of the PNW. You’re lucky to live there. 

    Royale 500 shot count info:  Mine has an FX regulator and gets 55 shots per 220 bar fill shooting the heavies around 840 – 845 fps.  I had the number one setting bored out so it’s shooting the kings at 885 fps for around 82 shots before it falls off the regulator. 

    
Thanks very much, 

    Wow that’s a great idea about boring the first setting out,  any idea how big they/you made it?

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    Been spending a bit of time at the range,  have about 1000 pellets down the pipe.  This is at 100m (110 yards),  only shot about 30 shots at this distance but I’ll spend some more time and see if I can get a 10 shot group under an inch.  From early results I think it’s doable.

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    terrymc
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    Nice Stuff Glem.
    Someday when I am not working 7 days a week I will get out to stretch the legs to 100 yards.
    That is what I bought this gun for, the longer distances.
    For now shooting 28 yards in my back yard will do.

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    2D1C
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    You should be proud! that is a kick ass gun in every way!

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