First impressions: AGT 0.25 "Vulcan 2" vs. Vulcan(1) Gen 3 bullpups

I got my Airgun Technology 0.25 Vulcan Bullpup shortly after it came out a couple of years ago and it ultimately replaced my trusty Edgun Matador R3M as my #1 rifle. The two were very, very similar in specs, performance and build quality but the Vulcan beat out the Edgun based on: 1) the forward cocking bolt (which was later improved by the lever upgrade), 2) having a safety (which the Edgun didn't have), 3) a better magazine design and 4) being easier to add an aftermarket LDC to reduce report.

You couldn't beat the R3M for accuracy, consistency, reliability and ease of maintenance and I've probably dispatched more varmint with the R3M than any other air rifle. The Vulcan matched the Edgun's accuracy, reliability and solid construction but was easier/smoother to cock. The Edgun mags sometimes didn't cycle and hold the pellets in place with brittle o-rings that cracked and broke over time. The Vulcan magazines took a little more time to load but worked perfectly everytime - and, unlike the Edgun, you know when you've fired your last pellet in the mag because it won't allow you to cock the rifle after the last pellet (no more frustrating empty dry fires when going for that follow up shot after you've lost count of the mag).

As great a rifle as it was, the Gen3 Vulcan wasn't without its issues initially. It left the factory with a really loud and twangy ping when fired - which was easily fixed by adding a couple of rubber grommets to the hammer spring. The safety itself wasn't great - it was just a sliding piece that prevented the trigger from being engaged so if you adjusted the trigger too far, the safety plate couldn't slide under the trigger mechanism anymore and rendered the safety useless (this also limited the adjustability of the trigger). The factory cocking bolt was nice but required three separate actions in each direction to cock the rifle. AGT later released the biathlon style lever that greatly improved the cocking but it was a $160 upgrade. The gauge on the Gen3 was also known to be inaccurate and mine maxed out at around 200bar no matter how much I filled it; AGT sent replacements to anyone that asked for one but it never bothered me enough to go through the effort. Lastly, the stock wasn't great. I was lucky to get one of the few that had some nice grain to it but most were incredibly plain. The butt plate was a thin, flat rubber pad with no adjustment.

I received my 0.25 Vulcan 2 about two weeks ago and have only shot a handful of mags through it so don't have enough data to do any substantial comparison of the two yet but here are my initial impressions:

Pros:

  • Just as accurate and consistent as the previous model: I quickly got it sighted in and it took out the first four squirrels I aimed it at between 50-75 yards.
  • Slightly better build quality: everything seems to have been beefed up and probably improved.
  • Side cocking lever included from factory.
  • Better, more reliable safety mechanism.
  • More accurate gauge.
  • Higher capacity magazine (10 vs. 9 previously).
  • Built-in picatinny slot in forearm: you can now just slide in a rail without having to modify your stock.
  • Greatly improved stock: essentially the same stock w/ adjustable butt plate as the Gen4 Vulcans but looks so much nicer as a laminate!

Cons:

  • It's longer and heavier than the previous model.
  • There's no longer the red indicator at the end of the rifle that shows whether or not the rifle has been cocked (really liked this feature - not sure why they got rid of it).
  • The move to a proprietary thread at end of barrel requires an LDC threaded specifically for the Vulcan; none of the many DonnyFL 1/2 x 20 UNF LDCs I have would fit it.
  • The new magazine now sits flush on both sides of the action when inserted - which looks cleaner but you can no longer gauge how many pellets remain in the mag.

I haven't had a chance to really put this Vulcan 2 through its paces so can't compare things like shot count. Will add to this thread after I've had the chance to shoot it some more, get some chrony data, etc. As for now, here are some photos of the two rifles side by side for anyone considering the new model. I can't really say if it's worth the $500 delta it cost me to sell my Gen3 to upgrade to the new model but so far it's seems to be a worthy update to its older brother.

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That laminate on your Vulcan2 is quite attractive. Tony told me that the Vulcan2 Tactic does not come in laminate. However, I chose the Vulcan2 Tactic .25 cal
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anyway, based on the the performance of my Vulcan Tactic .22 cal (purchased 6 months ago, Gen 4).

My next purchase will be either the Vulcan2 .30 cal laminate or the EDgun R5 Matador .25 cal, as I am very curious about the EDguns -- never having owned one.
 
2many - I saw your post and have to say that's one of the nicest stocks I've ever seen on any Vulcan, hands down. Tony did you right with that one. I tried the Tactic and didn't like the size/length because I prefer the shorter bullpups all around. Hard to argue with the performance of any of these Vulcans, regardless of model/generation. 

Edit: regarding your curiosity about the Edgun - to me, the Vulcan and Edgun Matadors are pretty comparable all the way around. I got the Vulcan2 first and ordered a R5M shortly after. I knew that doing so, one of the two was going to end up being the backup and not get very much use at all because they're very, very similar. One of the two will get sold off in the next year at a decent loss despite not having been shot very much at all . . . but at least I can tell myself that I tried them out and satisfied my curiosity before moving on to the next greatest thing. I'll post a similar thread regard the Edgun Lelya 2.0 and R5M soon.
 
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I have been forcing myself not to get one because I got a Leshiy just a few short months ago. I have a Vulcan .25 3rd gen and love the thing. Funny enough though I think I might be part of a small group who likes the side bolt over the side lever. No doubt I like the simplicity of the side lever but the bolt for me anyway seems to add to that sporter style bullpup stock. Anyhow. a Vulcan 2 in .30 in in my sights. I have actually had it and some optics in the shopping cart at talon tunes at one point. Its a hell of a battle fighting myself not to purchase it. Especially considering that I have the cash for it. 
 
I have been forcing myself not to get one because I got a Leshiy just a few short months ago. I have a Vulcan .25 3rd gen and love the thing. Funny enough though I think I might be part of a small group who likes the side bolt over the side lever. No doubt I like the simplicity of the side lever but the bolt for me anyway seems to add to that sporter style bullpup stock. Anyhow. a Vulcan 2 in .30 in in my sights. I have actually had it and some optics in the shopping cart at talon tunes at one point. Its a hell of a battle fighting myself not to purchase it. Especially considering that I have the cash for it.

Totally understand. You’re not going to get any more accuracy or consistency out of the Vulcan2 if you already have a Gen3. But this new stock in laminate is way nicer than the old Gen3 stock. I sold my perfectly functioning Gen3 for about $500 less than it cost me to get the 2 so I don’t know that the stock alone was worth the “upgrade”...but whatever, that’s part of the fun of this hobby. If you can afford it, just go for it.
 
Thank you for the review. Great comparisons and thank you for adding the pros and cons. I have some O.T. money coming my way and I'm looking at getting my first .25 cal PCP and bullpup. I've been looking at the Vulcan 2, EdGun R5M, and Taipan Veteran. 25 long or short. I bookmarked your thread to keep updated. Hopefully you can also do a comparison between the Vulcan 2 and the Edgun R5M when yours comes in.

Jude
 
Thank you for the review. Great comparisons and thank you for adding the pros and cons. I have some O.T. money coming my way and I'm looking at getting my first .25 cal PCP and bullpup. I've been looking at the Vulcan 2, EdGun R5M, and Taipan Veteran. 25 long or short. I bookmarked your thread to keep updated. Hopefully you can also do a comparison between the Vulcan 2 and the Edgun R5M when yours comes in.

Jude

Hey Jude,

Thanks...of the three rifles you listed, you can't really go wrong with any of them as they all are very solid performers. I did get both my Lelya 2.0 and R5M in last week but haven't shot any of them enough to do a real comparison. I did post some pics of them side by side so you can see how they compare to each other here:

https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/so-i-lied-to-myself-again/
 
I was looking at Edgun too, but it's only single shot in .30 cal. 

.25 has nice double sided lever with bearings, looks like entire gun is build like a tank, it's not like Vulcan is fragile, but looks like R5M is even beefier.

Another thing it's another 300$ plus to already not a cheap Vulcan

At that range you can get FX Impact, a lot of adjustments and of course huge advantage - you can change barrels and caliber

Finally my Vulcan 2 is on the way, if I'm lucky, tomorrow night I will be ripping targets apart

.30 cal pellets and scope are ready and waiting 
 
Thank you for the review. Great comparisons and thank you for adding the pros and cons. I have some O.T. money coming my way and I'm looking at getting my first .25 cal PCP and bullpup. I've been looking at the Vulcan 2, EdGun R5M, and Taipan Veteran. 25 long or short. I bookmarked your thread to keep updated. Hopefully you can also do a comparison between the Vulcan 2 and the Edgun R5M when yours comes in.

Jude

Hey Jude,

Thanks...of the three rifles you listed, you can't really go wrong with any of them as they all are very solid performers. I did get both my Lelya 2.0 and R5M in last week but haven't shot any of them enough to do a real comparison. I did post some pics of them side by side so you can see how they compare to each other here:

https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/so-i-lied-to-myself-again/

You have some beautiful pups there sir. Decisions, decisions, decisions...ughh!

😁
 
Yenniedn,



It’s been a couple weeks, any updates on the Vulcan 2?

Sadly, not really. I made the mistake of picking up an Edgun R5M (as well as the Lelya 2.0 a week before that). I knew that getting the R5M would mean that I’d be duplicating the Vulcan2 and one of them would be relegated to backup duty and not see much use. For now, it’s been the Vulcan2 that’s been sitting in the safe but not because I didn’t like it or whatever. Ironically, the Vulcan is a victim of its own success - I got it dialed in very quickly and quieted down with a DonnyFL Ronin so it’s been consistently and boringly stacking pellets at my 30yd zero since the beginning. It’s very much like my previous Gen3 Vulcan so I pretty much know what to expect.

The R5M, on the other hand, is much different than my previous R3M with the new stock, moderator and front cocking lever so it’s required more time to get used to. So what little time I’ve had to shoot have been with the two Edguns. All great rifles but not enough trigger time to shoot all three. 

One thing I did notice when I pulled the Vulcan2 out of the safe again the other day - it’s heavy! Fully dressed with scope and bipod, it weighs a ton (will get actual weight tonight when I get home) compared to any of the other rifles I currently have (granted the R5M doesn’t have the bipod installed yet).

Edit: with Hawke SF scope, Atlas bipod and DonnyFL Ronin installed, Vulcan2 is 11.8lbs. Edgun with Athlon Helos scope and 3 extra mags installed (4 total in rifle) weighs 10.6lbs (so they'd likely be the same if equally equipped).
 
I have been forcing myself not to get one because I got a Leshiy just a few short months ago. I have a Vulcan .25 3rd gen and love the thing. Funny enough though I think I might be part of a small group who likes the side bolt over the side lever. No doubt I like the simplicity of the side lever but the bolt for me anyway seems to add to that sporter style bullpup stock. Anyhow. a Vulcan 2 in .30 in in my sights. I have actually had it and some optics in the shopping cart at talon tunes at one point. Its a hell of a battle fighting myself not to purchase it. Especially considering that I have the cash for it.

I'm with you there- I really like the side bolt on my Gen4 vulcan. I love the simple straight back, forward and lock. I also really like being able to lock it back for barrel cleaning, switching out mags etc. It's become ultra smooth with use too.

Seems with the adjustable butt pad already on the gen4 there isn't really enough reason to upgrade for me. A better stock would be awesome though - mine looks plainer than I would have thought possible (zero grain, at all) and has the colour of used French fry oil...

Might be time to start carving one of these days...
 
Actually just got a Edgun Lelya in .22. It was a hard decision between 3 airguns actually but I went with the Lelya because of its compact size. Im just waiting on the scope to come in but I did toss a temporary scope on it to get some numbers. Cool little airgun and im happy with it as im sure I would of been just as happy with a different airgun had I decided to get it instead.