First gun to start young kids with (let's bring the average member age DOWN!)

Recently on this and other forums, there was discussion on the average age of members. Personally, I expected that to be on the older side, but was a little surprised at just how few people under 50 responded. We need to bring the youth into our pellet-crazed world!

So, for those of you with kids or grand kids, what did you use to start them off? I'm really curious what has or hasn't worked for people. 

Here's my experience so far: 

Like many on here, I started out young with my trusty BB gun (Daisy 880) so, when I decided it was time to get something for my little kids (7 and 5 years old) to start teaching them about guns and getting them interested, I started with a Daisy buck (because they have a considerably shorter length of pull than typical BB/pellet guns). The results were discouraging: My kids were too young to be able to cock it, and the trigger breaks at what feels like 10 pounds. And, of course, it's still a bb gun that might put 5 shots in 2" at 7 yards. They tried it and quickly got discouraged when they couldn't hit much of anything.

Somewhat disillusioned, I decided to try the Umarex Embark based on Tom Gaylord's write-up. It's basically a Ruger Explorer with better sights and a green stock. I recently got the kids curious again and we gave it another go. This went much better.

What I like:

  • Length of pull is 2+ inches shorter than typical adult-sized guns. I think this is key - the gun has to fit them, even if all they're doing is learning to shoot off a bench.
  • It's light -under 5 pounds
  • Very easy to cock -my 7 year old daughter can do it.
  • Accurate - with open sights, I can easily shoot dime-sized groups at 10 meters (we'll have to wait for spring to stretch it outside)
  • No worrying about BB's ricocheting and shooting an eye out 
  • It's a springer!

Negatives:

  • It's made in China, so it's no Weihrauch, but the finish work and assembly quality is still pretty decent - I'm satisfied for the price point
  • Trigger is long and creepy (it's not a Rekord!) But it's waaay better than the Daisy, with a reasonable pull and predictable release - to me, it's good for learning good trigger technique. 
  • It's a lot more expensive than your typical $35 BB gun. 

Overall, I like this little springer a lot - it's light, easy to cock, fits younger children, and is accurate. To me, it's worth it if it's more likely to get a child interested than discouraged -especially with the really young ones like mine. Consider this: how many more adults might have stuck with Airguns if their first one had been a HW30 or HW95 instead of a cheap Chinese air blaster?

Here's my son (5) and daughter (7) in the basement earlier this evening. And yes, my daughter needs to work on her head placement!

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Great idea!

I introduced our daughters to shooting at a young age and now I shoot with my grandsons. I belong to a sailing forum and we have conversations about introducing kids to sailing. Many of the outdoor activities we enjoyed in our youth have been put aside for mainstream sports and video games. I'm hoping they stay interested so I can introduce them to hunting and buy them a quality rifle. This summer we will be building a small sailboat together for their use.
 
I started my niece off with a Gamo youth springer. Small light easy to cock and very accurate with a Beeman 4x I had laying around. That gun then went through all my girlfriends kids then to my buddies kids. I think he still has it. The last I saw it the stock was turning white. Now my niece is older and loves all guns and is very good with any type. This weird ass thing is her favorite. Then my Taipan for long distance shooting.
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Started my kids around 5 years old. I made a shorty stock for a Daisy Buck BB rifle. I would have to cock it for them. I lightened the trigger on it and they would use the first two fingers to pull the trigger. Around 6 or 7 they would get their own Red Ryder BB gun and they can operate my PCPs since they are easy to cock. Oldest is 22 now and the youngest is 7. Here is Sean (7) working some of the guns.


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My 13 y/o son will scuff if I show him a paper target, but he lights up and can’t wait to shoot if I mention toy soldiers, live game*, cranberry jelly, etc. 

I don’t let him shoot live game unless he practices enough though.

I can’t blame your son for scuffing, even I get bored with paper sometimes!!! Ha ha!



When I shoot with the kids we will set up reactive targets even if it’s just some empty cans thrown out in front of us and use BB guns. When time and weather permits we do something like this...

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Beast222......how SAD but how TRUE your statement was a few posts up.

I'm getting close to introducing my grandsons to the airgun shooting world...and boys will be boys and likely at school the "what did you do this weekend" will come up....can only hope it doesn't get taken to the extreme.😕

Can't deny that this can be touchy. When I started with my kids it was a little bit of "fight club":

  • The first lesson was guns can be dangerous and you have to be safe.
  • The second lesson was guns can be dangerous and you have to be safe.
  • The third lesson was guns can be dangerous and talking about them with other people can scare them sometimes, so you need to be careful not to do that.
  • Then we started having some fun.

Even my motor-mouth 5 year old son seems to have gotten the message and it hasn't been an issue. But it does help to think about how to talk to them beforehand - it's all about striking the right balance between making sure they understand and respect the danger, but aren't afraid. 

My 13 y/o son will scuff if I show him a paper target, but he lights up and can’t wait to shoot if I mention toy soldiers, live game*, cranberry jelly, etc. 


I can’t blame your son for scuffing, even I get bored with paper sometimes!!! Ha ha!



When I shoot with the kids we will set up reactive targets even if it’s just some empty cans thrown out in front of us and use BB guns. When time and weather permits we do something like this...


Holy reactive targets! 

Totally agree though. My advice for anyone teaching a kid to shoot for the first time: 

  1. start with a backstop or clear area much bigger than you think you might need (especially if you're indoors!) 
  2. start with highly reactive targets. A balloon or the classic tin can are tough to beat for initial lessons (it helps to back with paper or cardboard so you can still see where they're missing) and goes a long way to getting the kids interested. Making a .177" hole in a piece of paper is just not that exciting. 
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Started my kids around 5 years old. I made a shorty stock for a Daisy Buck BB rifle. I would have to cock it for them. I lightened the trigger on it and they would use the first two fingers to pull the trigger. Around 6 or 7 they would get their own Red Ryder BB gun and they can operate my PCPs since they are easy to cock. Oldest is 22 now and the youngest is 7. Here is Sean (7) working some of the guns.


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Nice looking guns Sean has access to!

What is he shooting in the second pic - Diana 23 or 25, or something else? It looks perfectly scaled for him! 
 
More proof that the world went nuts. Two ten year old kids playing outside with broken airsoft guns were charged with a felony for pointing them at cars driving by. It use to be that they would just by given a talking to but now they are going to experience the mental trauma of being handcuffed and booked.

We need to be extra cautious instructing kids that have any kind of gun or gun look alike when they are out in public.
 
My 13 y/o son will scuff if I show him a paper target, but he lights up and can’t wait to shoot if I mention toy soldiers, live game*, cranberry jelly, etc. 

I don’t let him shoot live game unless he practices enough though.

Heh. I guess I'm weird - I'm 13 and love shooting tight groups on paper :)

Reactive metal targets are my go-to for offhand shooting though!

AK
 
Beast222......how SAD but how TRUE your statement was a few posts up.

I'm getting close to introducing my grandsons to the airgun shooting world...and boys will be boys and likely at school the "what did you do this weekend" will come up....can only hope it doesn't get taken to the extreme.😕

Can't deny that this can be touchy. When I started with my kids it was a little bit of "fight club":

  • The first lesson was guns can be dangerous and you have to be safe.
  • The second lesson was guns can be dangerous and you have to be safe.
  • The third lesson was guns can be dangerous and talking about them with other people can scare them sometimes, so you need to be careful not to do that.
  • Then we started having some fun.

Even my motor-mouth 5 year old son seems to have gotten the message and it hasn't been an issue. But it does help to think about how to talk to them beforehand - it's all about striking the right balance between making sure they understand and respect the danger, but aren't afraid.

It really does stink that it is what it is. Personally, I am home schooled but still have to go to public places and people (including some family members) who don't know anything about the greatness of this sport would get scared and say things like "Your a school shooter!" or something (if I remember correctly, that is what happened once...) if I say I shoot airguns, even though I just shoot (airguns) for fun. What is funny IMO is that kids in most forms will brag about some video game and how they wasted their whole weekend playing with 0s and 1s on a computer which gets appraised more than me shooting airguns in my backyard does. 

AK
 
We now live in a world where if a kid makes a L with their fingers and lowers it to the horizon they will be kicked out of school and probably have it reported to the police.

I'd suggest that the first rule of kids learning about guns is to never talk about learning about guns.

I kid you not, back in the day when I did go to public school they would vocally chastise kids who made L's with their fingers.

AK