FFP VS SFP

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    Szperu
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    From my experience…When using SFP i usually stay at one magnification. When using FFP i change it a lot and have more fun. Changing the reticle size is also fun. SFP is boring.

    When youre using small magnifications then SFP is the way to go, for 12-25 magnification FFP all the way.

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    jps2486
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    I agree with Joe Rhea.  I always choose SFP scopes.  I want to see the reticle regardless of whether on low mag or high mag.  Regardless of which scope you use, you have to know it's characteristics, holdover, no holdover, parallax and all the other stuff to acquire your target.  I personally think the FFP stuff is a lot of hype.

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    BR549
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    If you ever inadvertently have the SFP scope on the "wrong" power when you take an important shot using holdover (using reticle graduations), you could realize that it is not just hype. If you ever change your scope power, it is not a matter of "if' this will happen, but "when". If you never change the power on your scope, then an FFP is not an advantage.

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    L.Leon
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    “Hype”, “bandwagons”? Different negative personal analogies to push false blanket statements about ALL? FFPs? Fact is both types work for their intended usage, use the style you like best. I guess I fell for the “hype” and jumped on the “bandwagon” when I purchased mine. Lots of experts here.

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    L.Leon

    “Hype”, “bandwagons”? Different negative personal analogies to push false blanket statements about ALL? FFPs? Fact is both types work for their intended usage, use the style you like best. I guess I fell for the “hype” and jumped on the “bandwagon” when I purchased mine. Lots of experts here.

    Agree 100%.

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    FredAZ
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    I like the SFP presentation of a constant, clean reticle image.

    I use the TURRETS to dial in an ACCURATE drop and windage and just center the reticle – regardless of zoom.

     

    But, to each his own…….

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    In my experience with scopes : +1 for a SRP

    The last scope i bought was the Hawke Sidewinder FFP. Mounted it…….first hunt, came home and sold it!

    And yes i know it’s no top scope but dtill, no more FFP for me.

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    JoeWayneRhea
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    Recieved a – for evidently a comment I made here .. . Was just offering an honest opinion from personal experience and preferences . Not exactly sure why , but to each his own . Both types have pluses and minuses . But since I have no " accountability" and don't retaliate with negative marks I just leave it be . Guys who receive plus and minus marks from me are signed by JWR .

    Tons of comments I've made I'm 100% sure deserved a – mark . Offering a sincere opinion that someone disagrees with gets a – ? Odd 

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    randy_68
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    I tried a ffp scope but just didn't care for the change in the reticle on lower power. It became too cluttered and hard to distinguish the marks. Now, that was a Discovery 4.5×18 with 1/10 mil and in my opinion that is just too many marks in a reticle. I prefer a half mildot style so I bought a Discovery 6x24x44 sfp and couldn't be happier. Excellent scope and very clear. So possibly a ffp with half mildot might not be as cluttered but I'm going to just stick with what works for me. Which is a sfp with half mildot. 

     

     

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    Spyguy
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    FFP is promoted like it's a big deal. That means a lot of money in general. Makes me think about golfers and fisherman…you can sell them anything new!. Airgunners and shooters probably fall into the same category at times. I have looked through them both. You still need to know how far you are to make a good  judgement for drop. While hunting prairie dogs we often say "one dog high" or "half a dog high".  Magnification never changes that. All said and done however, If 2 scopes were identical in price I would take the FFP.

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    Eddie_E
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    I would happily pay an extra $30 to try FFP, but there is no way I'll pay an extra $100. The reticle would have to be the newer FFP specific design as well. Specifically the dual size reticle.

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    I would happily pay an extra $30 to try FFP, but there is no way I'll pay an extra $100. The reticle would have to be the newer FFP specific design as well. Specifically the dual size reticle.

    +1 i agree

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    Motorhead
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    As a competitive FT shooter as well a Hunter …. Nice as FFP are in regards to same hold amounts at differing X values,  Having a reticle that stays looking the same in size & contrast against target being shot it is for me at least VERY IMPORTANT.

    For that reason and mostly staying at a given X value when FT shooting or hunting have found no issue with SFP optics, prefer them for the reasons mentioned.

     

    JMO tho …

    Scott S

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    Saltlake58
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    I have both SFP and FFP's.  While FFP's cost more, I prefer them for one reason.  I'm too lazy to do the math at anything other than 10X, where a SFP scope is typically setup.  FFP the reticle grows and shrinks with the magnification so hold over points remain constant.  If it was 3 dots at 6X, it's 3 dots at 24x.  SFP, I never bothered to figure it out.

    A good quality scope will have a thin enough reticle that it doesn't get in the way.  By the way, if you have a chance to pick up an illuminated FFP, the illumination is pretty worthless and the cross hairs will be thicker in most cases than a nice fine non-illuminated scope.

    Just my opinion.  Worth what you paid for it.

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    MonsterMaxx
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    I really like the Athlon FFP scopes.  I've had Hawkes, Vortexs, Burris and others.  The Athlon scopes and I get along really well.  First it was the Argos, now it's the Helos.  I have 3 of the Argos and 2 (soon to be 3) of the Helos.  I shoot 10-100+yds with them.  Have an Impact .30 and HW98 w/ Helos.  Awesome.  Flat out Awesome.

    Some folks say they Athlon are a bit on the heavy side, but I do not notice it.

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    SJIJ
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    I have Athlon also. Midas TAC 6-24×50 FFP (APRS2) MIL

    It is really nice scope. Very clear, sharp and bright. Very happy with it. The reticle is not too thick at all even at the highest magnification and a small dot in the center of reticle is nice. At lowest magnification the reticle surely is quite small, but not too small in my opinion. You can see it clearly anyways. I rarely use it at the lowest magnifications, so it doesn't matter me at all. Parallax works fine. From 10m -> 11yards. to infinity.

    I don't think it's heavy at all.746g -> 26.3oz.

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    tennisbum1212
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    Thanks for all your comments.  What l have gathered is: 1) FFP seems to be less complicated and quicker for hunters where distance is always changing.  I had a math minor in college 47 years ago and l have no idea where wyshadow  came up with his SFP numbers???  2) FFP cost more! 3) Need to check out FFP scopes to make sure reticle lines can be seen at 10yds and reticle lines are not to thick at higher magnification like 20-25x. 4) FFP scopes may weigh a little more.  Oh, l changed my FX preorder to the Dream-lite at 5.5lbs. vs Classic synthetic at 6.5 lbs.  So the heavier weighted scope should not be a consideration.  

    The only other question l have regarding FFP vs SFP is this:  Say l am shooting a dove at 15 yds. and then a ground squirrel pops up at 35yds away.  If l had an SFP scope, how much difference would the calculation be to make this shot provided l had the gun zeroed in at 50 yds.  Will there be a difference where FFP would be more accurate?  I don’t mind missing the dove, but l want get that many shots at the ground squirrels.  That is the shot l MUST MAKE!  Comments please!!!!

     

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    tennisbum1212

    The only other question l have regarding FFP vs SFP is this:  Say l am shooting a dove at 15 yds. and then a ground squirrel pops up at 35yds away.  If l had an SFP scope, how much difference would the calculation be to make this shot provided l had the gun zeroed in at 50 yds.  Will there be a difference where FFP would be more accurate?  I don’t mind missing the dove, but l want get that many shots at the ground squirrels.  That is the shot l MUST MAKE!  Comments please!!!!

     

    Will there be a difference where FFP would be more accurate?

    No.

    When just changing distance, FFP and SFP will require the same trajectory compensation. Now if you were also changing the magnification, then SFP will require an additional adjustment because of the changing hash/dot angles. And even then, if your magnification marks are calibrated correctly, and you do the math correctly, the SFP will be just as "accurate".

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