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January 10, 2021 at 9:05 pm Link
Until late Summer 2020 I had mostly shot prone when hunting and bench in competitions. Have gotten into FT and shot in the AZ State at Mormon Lake and CA State at Morro Bay. Both time Hunter Class so bucket and sticks position.
It’s not as easy to hold steady as it looks…So getting into this new Extreme FT where distances are 25 to 100 yards and required position is bucket and sticks, similar to Hunter Class FT I thought I was ready… Not!
I know I need big improvement in learning and practicing to hold steady. In the November match not including off hand I shot 23/36 from the required position. Just to verify that the gun was set up well, I went back after the match and shot 33/36 prone. (.22 DS RW HP Bleu with KO Slugs). So LOTS of room for improvement.
Ive been practicing shooting longer ranges bucket and sticks whenever I go shooting. Today I shot six EBR targets 5 shots each from 58, 74, and 101 yards. .25 Impact with NSA slugs. Funny that my best target was at 74 yards. Still lots of room for improvement.
- This topic was modified 5 days ago by Centercut.
Until late Summer 2020 I had mostly shot prone when hunting and bench in competitions. Have gotten into FT and shot in the AZ State at Mormon Lake and CA State at Morro Bay. Both time Hunter Class so bucket and sticks position.
It’s not as easy to hold steady as it looks...So getting into this new Extreme FT where distances are 25 to 100 yards and required position is bucket and sticks, similar to Hunter Class FT I thought I was ready... Not!
I know I need big improvement in learning and practicing to hold steady. In the November match not including off hand I shot 23/36 from the required position. Just to verify that the gun was set up well, I went back after the match and shot 33/36 prone. (.22 DS RW HP Bleu with KO Slugs). So LOTS of room for improvement.
Ive been practicing shooting longer ranges bucket and sticks whenever I go shooting. Today I shot six EBR targets 5 shots each from 58, 74, and 101 yards. .25 Impact with NSA slugs. Funny that my best target was at 74 yards. Still lots of room for improvement.
January 10, 2021 at 9:18 pm LinkI would hit up NCed for pointers if I were into bucket and sticks shooting.
I would hit up NCed for pointers if I were into bucket and sticks shooting.
January 10, 2021 at 9:20 pm LinkNCed? Is that some sort of secret code?
NCed? Is that some sort of secret code?
January 10, 2021 at 9:25 pm LinkLooks pretty good to me. I struggle to get group sizes like some of those off a stable bench! Practice makes perfect tho.
What size KZs are you trying to hit at those distances?
Looks pretty good to me. I struggle to get group sizes like some of those off a stable bench! Practice makes perfect tho.
What size KZs are you trying to hit at those distances?
January 10, 2021 at 10:00 pm LinkI am sure there WILL be a certain someone that will show their group. Then maybe just maybe you can measure them and ask is this that really 12”. Lol.
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I am sure there WILL be a certain someone that will show their group. Then maybe just maybe you can measure them and ask is this that really 12”. Lol.
January 10, 2021 at 10:09 pm LinkLooking at your groups id say your not paying as much attention to the wind as you need to to get the kind of results you want
Looking at your groups id say your not paying as much attention to the wind as you need to to get the kind of results you want
January 11, 2021 at 6:02 am LinkCentercut
NCed? Is that some sort of secret code?
Nced is a member here…
https://www.airgunnation.com/members/nced/
Centercut
NCed? Is that some sort of secret code?
Nced is a member here...
January 11, 2021 at 7:08 am LinkThose groups look pretty good to me! That said, I now use a 3 legged foldable stool by ALPS Mountaineering instead of a bucket for my hunter class field target matches. The triangle shaped seat forms a little pocket that you can settle into, the legs seem to adapt to the ground to minimize rocking, and it’s low enough to enable my elbows to solidly rest on my thighs. Best of luck!
Those groups look pretty good to me! That said, I now use a 3 legged foldable stool by ALPS Mountaineering instead of a bucket for my hunter class field target matches. The triangle shaped seat forms a little pocket that you can settle into, the legs seem to adapt to the ground to minimize rocking, and it’s low enough to enable my elbows to solidly rest on my thighs. Best of luck!
January 11, 2021 at 8:35 am LinkLooks good to me! All but a few would be in the appropriate size KZ's for those distances. It's hard to be perfect, just ask my wife, lol.
Looks good to me! All but a few would be in the appropriate size KZ's for those distances. It's hard to be perfect, just ask my wife, lol.
January 11, 2021 at 6:36 pm LinkNCed? Is that some sort of secret code?
That use to be the user name for "North Carolina Ed".
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NCed? Is that some sort of secret code?
That use to be the user name for "North Carolina Ed".
January 11, 2021 at 10:21 pm LinkJohnnyPDX
Centercut
NCed? Is that some sort of secret code?
Nced is a member here…
☝ YUP!
JohnnyPDX
Centercut
NCed? Is that some sort of secret code?
Nced is a member here...
☝ YUP!
January 12, 2021 at 3:09 pm LinkDo you have to sit on a bucket? I find it easier to hold steady sitting cross legged on the ground or on a bag. I sometimes put my toe on the sticks for added stability. I'm fairly flexible for an old dude, though.
Do you have to sit on a bucket? I find it easier to hold steady sitting cross legged on the ground or on a bag. I sometimes put my toe on the sticks for added stability. I'm fairly flexible for an old dude, though.
January 12, 2021 at 7:11 pm LinkI use a shower stool to sit on leftover from my dad. I can adjust the seat height easily for best position.
I use a shower stool to sit on leftover from my dad. I can adjust the seat height easily for best position.
January 12, 2021 at 8:31 pm LinkJohnL57
Do you have to sit on a bucket? I find it easier to hold steady sitting cross legged on the ground or on a bag. I sometimes put my toe on the sticks for added stability. I'm fairly flexible for an old dude, though.
Oh man, you stepped in it now.
JohnL57
Do you have to sit on a bucket? I find it easier to hold steady sitting cross legged on the ground or on a bag. I sometimes put my toe on the sticks for added stability. I'm fairly flexible for an old dude, though.
Oh man, you stepped in it now.
January 15, 2021 at 9:32 am LinkAint that the truth
Aint that the truth
January 15, 2021 at 10:00 am LinkSturkis
Aint that the truth
😂
Sturkis
Aint that the truth
😂
January 15, 2021 at 10:44 am Link"Do you have to sit on a bucket?" Some would like that to be the case, but it ain't so.
- This reply was modified 19 hours ago by AirNGasman.
"Do you have to sit on a bucket?" Some would like that to be the case, but it ain't so.
January 15, 2021 at 11:27 am LinkRon, true statement. This was recently clarified in an email vote from everyone that has shot in any of the EFT events (pay to play). Both rules were voted in with only two “no” on #2. See below modifications to the rules link you posted above.
Match Director e-Mail:
I think we all agree that simple and straightforward rules are a good thing. With that in mind, I feel it necessary to ask for a vote on two significant items that should keep us from needing to add all kinds of future rules.After much deliberation, these are the two additions to the current rules that I'd like a vote on.
The first, I suggest adding at the beginning of the current rules. (current rules being what you all received a copy of at last month's match).
#1. ANY deviation from what is explicitly written within these rules will result in immediate disqualification. The Determination will be made by the match director-in the spirit of a fair competition .
The second is simply clarification of the type of seating and allowed shooting position.
#2 Any type and height of seat allowed (as long as no back support) but the majority of the bottom/soles of feet/shoes must be in contact with the ground for all non-kneeling and non-standing shots.
For those that aren't aware, Robert Buchanan (one of the owners of Airguns of Arizona) created this extreme field target venue. Prior to PRGC hosting monthly matches, it was only held once a year as part of the Extreme Benchrest event. This is part of what he recently had to say about Extreme Field Target, on AGN.
"I came up with the idea for American Field Target ( now Extreme Field Target ) so that the average guy or gal could enjoy competition with their back yard or hunting rig.The rules have been written with that spirit of fellowship, fun, and of course heated competition. It has been an overwhelming success. We did not want to recreate standard sit on your butt ft with gadgets and gimmicks. I am not personally in favor nor do I think they are needed. The rules are to favor the best shooter in his or her rawest form. The bucket and sticks are because I am old 😉 as are a lot of the shooters that attended the matches. Also hunters don’t typically carry a bag to sit on, a harness to shoot in, or a belt attached benchrest. They do sit on rocks and carry sticks in their packs. They do have range finders. They do have lighter scopes and guns. They don’t have all day to get comfortable to take a shot. Please let’s not recreate what we already have with other competitions. It’s ok to miss every now and then."
I think the addition of these two rules will help us keep with the intent of this awesome fun competition.
Please respond (by email) with your votes.
Please keep it simple to make it easier to tally, for example:
#1 yes or no
#2 yes or no
Yes meaning you DO WANT to see that added to the current rules.
No meaning that you DO NOT WANT to see that added to the current rules.
Thanks for taking the time to vote.
Ron, true statement. This was recently clarified in an email vote from everyone that has shot in any of the EFT events (pay to play). Both rules were voted in with only two “no” on #2. See below modifications to the rules link you posted above.
Match Director e-Mail:
I think we all agree that simple and straightforward rules are a good thing. With that in mind, I feel it necessary to ask for a vote on two significant items that should keep us from needing to add all kinds of future rules.After much deliberation, these are the two additions to the current rules that I'd like a vote on.
The first, I suggest adding at the beginning of the current rules. (current rules being what you all received a copy of at last month's match).
#1. ANY deviation from what is explicitly written within these rules will result in immediate disqualification. The Determination will be made by the match director-in the spirit of a fair competition .
The second is simply clarification of the type of seating and allowed shooting position.
#2 Any type and height of seat allowed (as long as no back support) but the majority of the bottom/soles of feet/shoes must be in contact with the ground for all non-kneeling and non-standing shots.
For those that aren't aware, Robert Buchanan (one of the owners of Airguns of Arizona) created this extreme field target venue. Prior to PRGC hosting monthly matches, it was only held once a year as part of the Extreme Benchrest event. This is part of what he recently had to say about Extreme Field Target, on AGN.
"I came up with the idea for American Field Target ( now Extreme Field Target ) so that the average guy or gal could enjoy competition with their back yard or hunting rig.The rules have been written with that spirit of fellowship, fun, and of course heated competition. It has been an overwhelming success. We did not want to recreate standard sit on your butt ft with gadgets and gimmicks. I am not personally in favor nor do I think they are needed. The rules are to favor the best shooter in his or her rawest form. The bucket and sticks are because I am old 😉 as are a lot of the shooters that attended the matches. Also hunters don’t typically carry a bag to sit on, a harness to shoot in, or a belt attached benchrest. They do sit on rocks and carry sticks in their packs. They do have range finders. They do have lighter scopes and guns. They don’t have all day to get comfortable to take a shot. Please let’s not recreate what we already have with other competitions. It’s ok to miss every now and then."
I think the addition of these two rules will help us keep with the intent of this awesome fun competition.
Please respond (by email) with your votes.
Please keep it simple to make it easier to tally, for example:
#1 yes or no
#2 yes or no
Yes meaning you DO WANT to see that added to the current rules.
No meaning that you DO NOT WANT to see that added to the current rules.
Thanks for taking the time to vote.
January 15, 2021 at 1:14 pm LinkThank you for the update and clarification Mike; I appreciate it. Apparently (from this thread) I'm not the only interested individual that benefits from the clarification.
Though I don't know Ben, kudos to him for addressing the issue with a vote of the participants.
- This reply was modified 17 hours ago by AirNGasman.
Thank you for the update and clarification Mike; I appreciate it. Apparently (from this thread) I'm not the only interested individual that benefits from the clarification.
Though I don't know Ben, kudos to him for addressing the issue with a vote of the participants.
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