Hi guys, new to this but fancy a play at 75-100 yard competitive shooting. Looking at a .30 cal impact mk2 bench when they come out in the Uk. Any thought s or advice on this calibre for purpose ?
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From what I recall at the past EBR competition most competitors were using 22 and 25 caliber mostly Daystate RedWolf closely followed by FX impact. I didn’t notice 30 caliber at all in the 100 and 50 yd. matches. If I had to guess why I would say the higher cost of practice ammo may of been a reason.
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I would speculate that part of the reason why there weren't many .30 rifles is because that's not what the companies are pushing. Back when the FX Boss was the big thing, everyone was shooting a Boss. Then when Ted starting shooting the Impact with the redesigned .25 pellets, everyone bought and shot one of those. Now AOA is pushing the Daystate Redwolf, so everyone is buying and shooting those at EBR.
Remember guys, EBR is a competition second, and a products advertisement first. This is not bad or wrong, but it is what it is.
Chas
Remember guys, EBR is a competition second, and a products advertisement first. This is not bad or wrong, but it is what it is.
Chas
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Hmmmm, I was surprised by the comments about .30 caliber at EBR. So I looked at the results again, and 2 of the top 3 Pros were .30 and 2 of the top 3 Sportsmen were .30. Cant get much more “.30” centric than that...
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Hmmmm, I was surprised by the comments about .30 caliber at EBR. So I looked at the results again, and 2 of the top 3 Pros were .30 and 2 of the top 3 Sportsmen were .30. Cant get much more “.30” centric than that...
I guess my memory slipped on this , Centercut is correct I stand corrected .
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There were plenty of .30 cal FX Impacts in the mix. They made sure to nullify most of them. personally I was not happy at all with my first experience there and felt like there was a definite bias to Arizona Airgun shooters. There should be a public review of the top five targets and a paper 5" behind the target to be able to verify shots that other people put on your target. They claim they can tell where a pellet came from through a piece of cardboard. Bullpoop! There is no respect for the hard work to get there and the money spent or erring in favor of the shooter.
My .30 Impact does better at 75 and 100 than my .25. No matter what you do you have to sort pellets.
My .30 Impact does better at 75 and 100 than my .25. No matter what you do you have to sort pellets.
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Wow -- is this a public cry of "FOUL" at EBR? This is news to me - is there any evidence or just sour grapes?
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Ive been shooting a lot of .30 cal the last 4 years and it became my favorite caliber, especially for longer range. I originally got into the .30 for its terminal energy over the smaller calibers but grew to love it for target as well. Ive also grown rather fond of the .22 JSB 25.39gr. Generally speaking, if we maintain the same scale/dimensions, ballistics coefficient will increase as caliber increases, due to weight/SD. But none of that matters if you barrel does not like the higher BC pellet. You can essentially match up a heavier pellet with the higher BC in the larger caliber, in a smaller caliber with the increased weight/SD. But even then, equal velocities may not equate to the same performance. Ive also grown rather fond of the .22 JSB 25.39gr, as many airguns can actually push those into the peak velocity realm. In general for a given caliber, the heavier the pellet, the higher velocity will typically translate into higher BCs. It would seem that manufacturers of airguns are catching up with pellet manufacturers, and in the case of FX (probably Daystate/Brocock for that matter), it makes sense they shoot these (JSB) pellets so well is they are designed around them. So its no wonder the .22 was up there with .25 and .30, in fact, shined.
You will no doubt do well in a .30 for longer range, pretty well established FX airguns do really well in that caliber at that range for years. Do you have to have a .30? It seems not, but likely easier (purely speculation and my experience) than a smaller caliber unless you get all of the other components built around the projectile, accuracy being most important obviously. So then you can decide on how much energy you need, shot count, mag size, cost of ammo, etc.
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Going back to the 2013 EBR 75 Pro event when 3 of the top 5 shooters used .30 guns; the following years, 2014 and 2015...90% of the shooters began using .30 guns. When Ted won in 2016 with that .25 FX Impact, and gave his ballistic reasoning in a follow-up video as to why and how he won it; more .25 guns came into play @ the 2017 EBR 100 Pro event. And now, checking the 2018 EBR 100 Pro results, there were FOURTEEN .22 in the top 30, THIRTEEN .30 in the top 30, and only THREE .25 cal in the top 30. The fact that a .22 gun won it all, albeit just barely; and a Brocock Bantam Sniper at that, is a testament to the fine shooting of Claudio Flores! The rise in .22 guns last year had alot to do with the 'One Gun Challenge' and the need to use one gun for all events; but why the majority of the .22 guns were Daystate Red Wolf's, I can't call that one. However, the notion that companies are pushing one caliber over another is null. Companies are pushing their products, period.
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