You are correct in that statement, my mistake. That link refers to the 2013 shoot. So is the now the 2nd time this issue has come up? I've never been.
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Events Extreme Benchrest 2015
- Thread starter airgunsofAZ
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In this response, I am NOT speaking for AoA, Daystate, of FX airguns. They are a sponsors of this forum - yes. But, they did not contact me re: this post, and we have never had any discussion re: the concerns you mentioned. My response is my own understanding of the events, as someone who was there all day, every day. Please read it as one man's interpretation of the events - not as a declaration of TRUTH. It's just the way I saw it - based on many conversations.
Sportsman class is graded/scored the same as pro class. They simply separate the two classes to help keep a competitive spirit to the competition. The pro class is for shooters who are involved in the industry, or who have placed in the top three of the Sportsman's class in the past. Anyone can enter the pro class. Only "non-industry" shooters can enter into the sportsman class.
As for AoA handing out FX and Daystate guns to shooters....that is a benign story that go turned ugly. First off, I don't think it was nine. But, even if it was, that isn't the point. The shooters who were given guns to shoot were from overseas. Giles Barry (and others) traveled from the UK to cover the events at EBR. They did so with the prior agreement that they would be able to use a gun when they got here. They were not given special guns or special ammo. They just wanted to compete, but did not own any "FAC" guns, so they borrowed some from guys in the states. Two years ago, I loaned my Bobcat .30 to two such travelers. And, my first year at EBR, two shooters loaned me their guns for two events, and one guy even spotted me a coat to wear when he saw I was freezing.
Shooters are always loaning each other gear. There are several events, and few people have the gear to compete in every event. I do not own a pistol or a big-bore gun. Yet, I will gladly enter those competitions if someone is nice enough to spot me their gun. And, I have already agreed to loan my MK4 to two shooters who would like to enter the field target competition, but lack a "low-powered" rifle.
AoA was just trying to do a good thing. And, that good thing quickly turned into a story of them trying to stack the deck.
That said, AoA and Daystate did give one gun away last year. A young man's Daystate Huntsman went missing on Saturday. To date, it is unknown if its disappearance was a crime or just an error. In any event, that young man was pretty distraught. On Sunday, at the banquet, after all the awards had been given out, that young man was surprised with brand new Daystate Regal Huntsman.
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I do remember looking for the kids daystate that realy sucked!! You have to realy watch your stuff. Its just a bunch of know it alls trying to explain why they lost ha ha how they bought the cricket rifle for 1500 and should win !
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I remember when that kid's gun went missing. Really sad and messed up if someone stole it. AoA are really good people and it showed when they stepped in for that kid. I think it brought everyone's spirit up
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AOA and FX are not in bed together. I wish this kind of gossip would just stop.....total waste of energy. Focus on a Great time had by all! The match is fair and observed by everyone attending. Enjoy -- Hunter
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Just to add a little fuel. One of the main reasons I purchased my 2nd pcp was because of all the whining about AoA and fx.
I bought a fx Royale 400 from AoA and 6 months later bought a R 500 used and sent it to AoA to fix-tune and got it back with about a 2.0 standard deviation.
I bought a fx Royale 400 from AoA and 6 months later bought a R 500 used and sent it to AoA to fix-tune and got it back with about a 2.0 standard deviation.
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AOA rocks those guys have spent soo much time answering my questions and letting me look at everything they have and everyone that has ever helped me which I think has been everyone from the owner to the new guy has been awesome.....keep up the awesome service and you will always have haters that's how you know you are doing a great job......And watch some of the YouTube videos one has the UK guy Giles walking around the shop doing interviews and showing the guys getting guns ready. And if they had special guns wouldn't that mean they would win? LOL look at the results over the years......EBR looks to me like 25% gear 50% shooter and 25% getting good conditions when it's your time to shoot. I will be going this year looking forward to meet everyone.
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Could someone lend me a .22 gun so I could shoot in the 25 meter challenge? If they have an extra gun that is available
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I only have one 22, fx400, if it works out that we aren't shooting at the same time, you are welcome to use it. 662-436-0523.
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Will representatives from major manufactures be attending this year?!
I would enjoy meeting all the shooters and industry reps at this event.
I would enjoy meeting all the shooters and industry reps at this event.
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I've read over the rules but I don't see any time limit or quantity of targets.
Is it 20 minutes for 25 targets?
Is it 20 minutes for 25 targets?
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Is there a sample 100yd target or even dementions?
is it same as 75 yd or is it top secret?
is it same as 75 yd or is it top secret?
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A member just informed me that its 3 sets of 25 targets for a total of 75 and you get 20 minutes for each and time to refill with air between, for a total of about an hour and 10 or so.
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I will not be able to attend the shoot due to work. I asked for a possible refund on fees but never heard back. If my spot is transferable I would sell it to a Jr. Shooter at 75.00 or an adult at 100.00. T shirt size is xxl however. Lol.
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Sorry to hear that blackjack21. Better luck next year!
Just think... That's over a year of practice time!
Just think... That's over a year of practice time!
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Well,
The first of 2 days of the 75 yard. To say it was a wake up call for some would be an understatement. The swind was light heavy and very sneaky.It is very interesting to see peoples reaction when there are 4 wind flags in 50 yards and 3 of the 4 are pointing different direction and velocity. That is why shooting here regularly (very poorly i might add) is a very challenging and HARD!!!!. I would like to get other peoples opinion that are participating,on thisas well as other feed back.
The first of 2 days of the 75 yard. To say it was a wake up call for some would be an understatement. The swind was light heavy and very sneaky.It is very interesting to see peoples reaction when there are 4 wind flags in 50 yards and 3 of the 4 are pointing different direction and velocity. That is why shooting here regularly (very poorly i might add) is a very challenging and HARD!!!!. I would like to get other peoples opinion that are participating,on thisas well as other feed back.
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@AZZBEN
I concur the wind has been crazy the past couple of days. I want to add the unseasonably high temperatures have made it a bit more challenging for those not accustomed to it. That aside, I have been having a terrific time and have enjoyed meeting the folks and making new friends. As for the completion, for me it's been a learning experience as this is the first time competing. I'm looking forward to the rest of the events and hanging with some new buds.
Scott
PS - I did terrible in the today's first round card of the 75 yard event
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