Edgun ... Why didn't someone tell me before?

Why all the big secret about the Edgun Matador's insurmountable obstruction to accuracy. I have been sooooooooooooo darn POed with this gun for over a year now with it's inability to group

Then I was surfing AGN as saw where someone said that if you torqued the barrel tension lug to between 10 to 12 lbs that a gun that previously would not group well probably would. Personally I thought someone was peeing down my back and telling me it was raining … but hey … I'm game … almost anything is worth a try at least once. Sooooo I had never touched the tension lug on the barrel because I didn't have a 12mm hex head ... and when I put a hex wrench on it I was surprised that it was as tight as it was. I loosened it and guess what, the air tube slid it just like it had belonged there all along. Prior to that it had been a pain trying to get the air tube in or out because even with the gun cocked, safety applied, moderator and moderator tube taken off, it was such a tight fit. Apparently the tension lug was so tight that it was pulling the part of the shroud that covers the tension lug toward the air tube and not allowing you to just drop it in and pull up into the sled. Now she just rides the shroud down to the sled, pull up and it pops in.



But the biggest thing was what happened to the accuracy … Boom, Boom and Kaboom … she is popping half inch groups at 60 yards like nobody's business. I've had this gun for over a year and can't tell ya how many times I had almost thrown it in the garbage … and look at her now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And nobody had said a word about it until last week when somebody mentioned the barrel tension lug. In desperation to try just about anything I even put on a new Huma regulator and even that would not overcome the stress that the tension lug had the gun under to improve the accuracy. I'm marking the barrel and the spot on the tension lug where they mate just in case I need to do something to the gun in the future where I would need to take the barrel out so I can mate it back together again.

Well, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

Shalom

John
 
Good to hear that it’s working now. Those were my posts about the barrel tension nut torque. Occasionally I get crap from people that act like smart asses that know everything, but I’m sure I’m not the only person that has issues and that is why I post everything that I find out in hopes something like this happens. Hopefully others will pay it forward.
 
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slcrcflyer … +1 thank you again so much for that advice with the barrel tension lug. I didn't have to play with the pellet speed but it was a 25.39 gr JSP at 925 fps for about 48 ft lbs. I was shooting at one of those MYTARGETS.com 1" round circles and was keeping them all in the upper half of the circular target .. had to do a double take … thought my eyes were deceiving me and at 60 yards. I had watched videos of the Edgun being tore down and put back together and when they put the air tube in it would just slide down the frame and then you would simply raise the rear end up and slide it over the sled … mine would never do that. You always had to play with it this way and that and pull and bump it with your hand to get it to fit in the slot because the tension lug was actually pulling the part of the moderator tube towards the air tube … and that was with the moderator and the part of the sleve that covers it off the gun ... but you can't take the tube that covers the lug off without taking the lug off first.

Somebody ought to inspect these R5M longs for that before leaving the factory.

Tom, the only thing I could tell you (as I do not have a Leshiy) would be to inspect the torque on your barrel tension and maybe call Brian at Edgun West to find out what the appropriate amount of tension would be for a Leshiy. All I can say it that it surprised the snot outta me. If you don't have a torque wrench to check it with try marking the barrel and the tension lug where they are now … then loosen the tension by a quarter turn and check for any accuracy change. Do it a couple of times and if there is no improvement you can always turn the tension lug back to where it was by lining up the marks you make with a sharpie on the barrel and lug … no harm, no foul.
 
Why all the big secret about the Edgun Matador's insurmountable obstruction to accuracy. I have been sooooooooooooo darn POed with this gun for over a year now with it's inability to group

Then I was surfing AGN as saw where someone said that if you torqued the barrel tension lug to between 10 to 12 lbs that a gun that previously would not group well probably would. Personally I thought someone was peeing down my back and telling me it was raining … but hey … I'm game … almost anything is worth a try at least once. Sooooo I had never touched the tension lug on the barrel because I didn't have a 12mm hex head ... and when I put a hex wrench on it I was surprised that it was as tight as it was. I loosened it and guess what, the air tube slid it just like it had belonged there all along. Prior to that it had been a pain trying to get the air tube in or out because even with the gun cocked, safety applied, moderator and moderator tube taken off, it was such a tight fit. Apparently the tension lug was so tight that it was pulling the part of the shroud that covers the tension lug toward the air tube and not allowing you to just drop it in and pull up into the sled. Now she just rides the shroud down to the sled, pull up and it pops in.



But the biggest thing was what happened to the accuracy … Boom, Boom and Kaboom … she is popping half inch groups at 60 yards like nobody's business. I've had this gun for over a year and can't tell ya how many times I had almost thrown it in the garbage … and look at her now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And nobody had said a word about it until last week when somebody mentioned the barrel tension lug. In desperation to try just about anything I even put on a new Huma regulator and even that would not overcome the stress that the tension lug had the gun under to improve the accuracy. I'm marking the barrel and the spot on the tension lug where they mate just in case I need to do something to the gun in the future where I would need to take the barrel out so I can mate it back together again.

Well, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

Shalom

John

Hey, tighten the tube back and throw it away in my direction🤣

While not true in Airguns (at least not yet) I can't even count the number of little electronics and some even not so little, that people has given me because it didn't work the way it was supposed to, I was able to do some research and find the bug and fix it. Even had a buddy get red mad at me because I took his non working Nintendo he threw away and was playing it the next day when he came over 

Glad you found the gremlin
 
Slcrcflyer,

Is that an e-bike in your Pictures? If so perhaps a review, brand ect. I’m interested in this idea.


Yes it is an e-bike it’s a Haibike FullFatSix. I’ve had it for about 3 years and 1500 miles and it’s still going strong. I have a very critical review on my YouTube channel. If you are looking at getting one I may recommend the Bulls version because it has walk-assistances which is really handy when you are biking in deep snow. E-bikes are the best!
 
E-bikes are a great companion to airgunning. You can get in to some beautiful backcountry and have the E-assistance to help you lug your gear up the trail and you get a killer work out and enjoy shooting at the same time. Mountain 🏔 biking 🚵‍♀️ is my 1st favorite hobby with Airguns in 2nd place and I’m sure everyone can tell by my user name/YouTube channel name “SLCRCflyer” (Salt Lake City RC flyer) that RC airplanes ✈️ and helicopters 🚁 are in 3rd place.



this was today 

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slcrcflyer … +1 thank you again so much for that advice with the barrel tension lug. I didn't have to play with the pellet speed but it was a 25.39 gr JSP at 925 fps for about 48 ft lbs. I was shooting at one of those MYTARGETS.com 1" round circles and was keeping them all in the upper half of the circular target .. had to do a double take … thought my eyes were deceiving me and at 60 yards. I had watched videos of the Edgun being tore down and put back together and when they put the air tube in it would just slide down the frame and then you would simply raise the rear end up and slide it over the sled … mine would never do that. You always had to play with it this way and that and pull and bump it with your hand to get it to fit in the slot because the tension lug was actually pulling the part of the moderator tube towards the air tube … and that was with the moderator and the part of the sleve that covers it off the gun ... but you can't take the tube that covers the lug off without taking the lug off first.

Somebody ought to inspect these R5M longs for that before leaving the factory.

Tom, the only thing I could tell you (as I do not have a Leshiy) would be to inspect the torque on your barrel tension and maybe call Brian at Edgun West to find out what the appropriate amount of tension would be for a Leshiy. All I can say it that it surprised the snot outta me. If you don't have a torque wrench to check it with try marking the barrel and the tension lug where they are now … then loosen the tension by a quarter turn and check for any accuracy change. Do it a couple of times and if there is no improvement you can always turn the tension lug back to where it was by lining up the marks you make with a sharpie on the barrel and lug … no harm, no foul.

Glad I can help😀
 
E-bikes are a great companion to airgunning. You can get in to some beautiful backcountry and have the E-assistance to help you lug your gear up the trail and you get a killer work out and enjoy shooting at the same time. Mountain 🏔 biking 🚵‍♀️ is my 1st favorite hobby with Airguns in 2nd place and I’m sure everyone can tell by my user name/YouTube channel name “SLCRCflyer” (Salt Lake City RC flyer) that RC airplanes ✈️ and helicopters 🚁 are in 3rd place.

this was today 



I love e-bikes and biking and airguns definitely go together but need to make some new battery packs for mine. My 100lb adult daughter took my DIY build out and did 53MPH down the street with it. It only goes 40 for me cuz I am near twice her weight. BMC 600 geared motor, 60-72 volts, 12gauge spokes and heavy wheels, eight inch brake rotors and I converted the front derailleur control to a three speed throttle. It will do near 20 miles at 20MPH and I had two extra packs and a small portable charger so I could go anywhere. Those were the days. Back when I lost the ability to be able to drive safely for a few years I rode this.



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